You won't stop Reform by calling their supporters racist
September 30, 2025
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I think there is a risk that the left
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towards people who might be voting for
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reform. I want to show you a clip which
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It's a very hard one. I mean I come from
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more towards no wealth tax.
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So for me if the wealth tax was possible
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I'm at a stage in my politics where I
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would actually support it. There are a
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lot of reform voters who be supportive
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progressive change in the next election,
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you need to win people over. And I think
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you need to be really careful to resist
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in this country. I totally understand
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worry about increasing racism in
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society. I think it's happening. I can
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pragmatic. You need to be sensible.
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Reform are going to win the next
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relentless and aggressive in your
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pursuit of common ground and unity. And
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that means you're willing to go to
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everything about and say, "Listen,
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I know we don't agree on everything, but
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let's find the thing that we do agree on
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and let's fight for that." Because those
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people at those protests, they just like
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you are struggling to pay the rent.
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economic futures. If you center that, if
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something positive. You can win them
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over. If you focus on what divides you,
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