an economist who focuses on inequality
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joining the program tonight
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their introduction which was that uh
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now normally when the government needs
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this time that's not happening
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all the money that the government has
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has been borrowed from the bank of
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an independent one
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got this money by printing it
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easing right we're just we're just
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bank of england is printing money
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just like it did after 2008 but this
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england is printing
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it's borrowing it from the bank of
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and in the past whenever we've seen
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and interestingly the government the
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money does not have to be paid back
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another branch of government
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you don't have to pay any interest on it
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years now many countries have
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have another 10 years and they've
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really what is a debt if you don't have
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to pay it back
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so but the the yes it depends i guess
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what proportion of the amount that we
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is being done through the printing of
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the country does borrow and it's a
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about government borrowing
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who are they going to to borrow the
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money from who do they ring up to say
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yeah this time it's us yeah it's really
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is almost exactly the same as the amount
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of money that the central bank is
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works out something like
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5 000 pounds per person in the country
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of the government
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what that means is it will not be paid
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back yeah i used to work in financial
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really which raises the question why
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don't governments do this all the time
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so this is hang on a second so gary so
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the job that you you're now presumably
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retired from at the age of 30. my god i
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need to ask you about that in a minute
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um but that all the the finance guys
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down in the city they're all saying to
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they stopped looking at government debt
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which which raises the question what is
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going to happen yeah what are the
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like you say we're breaking all the
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what i mean the question which people
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fund a government deficit
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and what would be your answer
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governments don't normally do this is
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have lost their income they lost their
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incomes and their spending has collapsed
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people and richer people
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it's gone to the roof so richer people
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are accumulating a lot of money in their
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banking as a result of this policy
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so when we talk about going back to
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normal after kobe we're not going to be
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full of a lot of cash and gary to ask
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what does that do and gary the the
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an absolute dunce on this stuff
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the difference between what you see in
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i mean in in america the the the price
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is there the stock market there it's
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saying the banks were predicting an 18
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just chugging along ticking over
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that the asset economy seems to be
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carrying on as normal the real economy
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that is exactly right and it's exactly
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now you know i come from an ordinary
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background but i work with a lot of
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wealthy people from the uk from the us
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money they're going to invest it
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stocks and shares in this country
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that means yeah you can go back and look
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at my right at the beginning of the
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people a load of money
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they will buy things if you look at 2008
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printing going to richer people
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that will happen again here that is the
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double again what happens though gary
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gary it's so interesting the house price
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thing is really interesting what happens
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if you just print money
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with this amount of cash flying whether
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your screw does not depend who you are
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if you're one of the people who's
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sitting with a bank account for the cash
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this country are
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then that's just fine for you my worry
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is what happens to the ordinary people
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if they double again you're telling like
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you're never going to get half so really
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with this crisis
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who's going to pay it back it's going to
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so actually the way in which you pay
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we're never going to pay that back
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that's that's fine we'll write that off
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what needs to happen is the payback to
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guys and the the poorer people whose
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don't have any assets exactly
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exactly that is that that is a big
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to push asset prices up it is going to
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so really the problem we're going to
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inflation out on the streets
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and inflation in asset prices after 2008
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we didn't see much inflation in shops
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we didn't see but we saw a huge amount
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of inflation eventually in assets so the
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thing that's happening here is loads and
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and when people lose their jobs that
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and people don't get pay rises
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then you don't get much inflation
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so that's the reason why after 2008 we
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necessarily that's going to happen again
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than it was in 2008
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especially once covered passes and like
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um i think if you remember after 2008
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2010 2011 we did have quite high
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six percent that's right and then
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take any money back
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leave the easy money the bank of england
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you know i don't want to make any exact
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point coming out of this
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continue but what that will cause
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is a cost of living crisis for ordinary
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late for the
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and and i made the money very quickly
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and it was it was all so it all come
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very quickly to me and okay well let me
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ask you this it's very funny you're
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obsessed with i'm obsessed with this
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this idea right so there you are it
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shifted on its access access because
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for you
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for me when was that well that was when
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yeah that was it but before i go i'd
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just like to suggest them if anyone
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wants to know more about the effects for
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explaining exactly how it works
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