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August 11, 2024
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Okay guys welcome back to Gary’s Economics.

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Today

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we are going to do a final channel

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update before I go on holiday.

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Okay I'm talking to you today on the 25th of June.

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We won't put this video out until much later.

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In the middle of the start

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of a beautiful London heatwave.

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I am about to

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fly off to Japan in a few days to finally do

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this long cycle I've wanted to do for ages.

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so I thought it'd be a nice time

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to just look back a little bit on what has been

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a mad year for me and for the channel

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and for the world and talk a little bit

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about what we've achieved

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and what we're going to do in the future.

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So the first thing to say is,

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of course, that this year has been basically

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just a massive, massive year for growth on the channel.

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At the moment I'm shooting this, we are

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about 275,000 subs on YouTube.

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A year ago that was something like 80,000.

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We've had massive growth on Instagram, on TikTok.

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We've started to really cut through

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quite a lot, basically.

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And that's

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thanks to a lot of your support sharing the videos.

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Thanks to a lot of hard work

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from the team that we've put together.

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And yes, something to be proud of,

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in terms of how we're affecting

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the conversation.

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You know, my aim

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with this

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channel has always been basically

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to build the bridge between

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inequality and the economy.

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I think that

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almost everybody agrees

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that high levels of inequality are a bad thing,

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but I think people have

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believed or been kind of fooled

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into believing for a long time that

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high levels of inequality

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are kind of

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a necessary sacrifice,

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kind of the price you pay for a good economy

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in a capitalist society.

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But those of you who know my history will know

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I made a lot of money basically

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betting that high inequality

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will destroy the economy in the long term.

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And what I really want to do

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is get people to see

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the things that are happening

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in the real economy, in their real lives.

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Increased difficulty with

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buying houses,

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in many cases, just paying the rent, buying food

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and connect them

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with the really rapidly

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growing inequality we're seeing in society.

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I think that if we can get people

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to recognise that

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the reason that they or their kids

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or their grandkids are struggling

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economically is because of growing inequality,

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and that problem will get worse and worse,

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that we can start to take action on it. And,

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we definitely have been making progress on that.

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This year, I brought in for the first time

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a couple of professionals.

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Professional videographer,

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professional channel manager

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to help me manage the growth of the channel

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during the book release. And,

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in order to do that,

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we went and got some funding from like a big

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charitable foundation here in London.

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They do a lot of work on inequality.

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That's why they funded us.

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And, they've been sort of surveying people,

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and they've found there's been a massive increase in

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people who think that the reason

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the economy is bad is because of

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growing inequality, basically. And,

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you know, when I heard that,

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I was really proud because that's

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partly, I think because of this channel.

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And I think that's partly

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because of the work that we do here.

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So we're getting out there, we're reaching people,

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we're still not reaching enough people.

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I think still, most people in the country don't realise

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growing inequality is the reason for growing poverty,

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for growing difficulties in their lives.

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But we are making progress.

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I watch a lot of news in the morning

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because I want to see what people are being told,

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and I watch the most basic commonplace news in the UK.

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I watch BBC news and Sky news.

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And I was watching

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BBC radio five live

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while I was eating breakfast the other day and,

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they were interviewing a Green candidate.

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We mentioned on another video

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that the Greens have basically adopted

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our policies of a wealth tax.

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And I was watching the interviews and

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nobody was talking about wealth inequality,

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and it was kind of making me think like,

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what more do we have to do to really get this issue

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really into the discussion

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so that mainstream politicians have to talk about it.

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So it has to be mentioned.

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And exactly when I,

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was thinking

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that I was eating my porridge, there was a caller,

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a lady called Helen from Burnley called in and,

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she basically said, you know,

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are you guys aware of how much money

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has being given out

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during Covid, the government deficit,

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since Covid is £700 billion

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and are you aware of where that money's ended up?

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Whether it's ended up with the richest people,

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whether it's increased inequality?

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Because what I'm seeing is

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a massive increase in the wealth

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of billionaires and millionaires.

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And, I don't think people are talking about it.

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People aren’t doing anything about it. And,

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it was immediately obvious

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because nobody else really talks about these issues

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and because of the language

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she was using that she got that information

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from this channel. And,

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you know, I know that's a one off instance,

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but it was quite emotional for me to see that we’re

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starting to cut through, we’re stating

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to affect the conversation.

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And I think that's,

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that's something we can all be proud of.

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It's part of the conversation now.

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But at the same time, realistically,

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it's not a central enough part.

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I think we're starting to make cuts

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throughs with people on the street,

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but we're seeing a lot of other problems coming in.

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The rhetoric that the problems are primarily

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caused by immigration

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is growing and growing and growing.

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Partly because of the, you know, the resurgence

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in the return of Nigel Farage.

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His voice is way, way, way louder than mine.

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And,

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because this inequality problem is not being fixed, it

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inevitable that the economic problems

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and the living standards

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problems will keep getting worse

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and people will become very dissatisfied

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with the incoming Labour government.

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They'll become very dissatisfied with the status quo.

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They’ll want change,

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and they'll be looking for an alternative. And,

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at this point in time,

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when you look at the loudness of ‘the

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problem is immigration’ versus

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the loudness of ‘the problem is inequality’,

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it's really hard to see them not winning.

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And, I want to be really clear when I say this.

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You know, I'm not saying that immigration doesn't

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cause economic problems for certain groups of people,

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you know. In fact, I think it probably does.

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I think the problem you have here

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is that it is going to drown out this narrative.

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And if we don't win this narrative, then

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the economy will continue to collapse, basically.

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That's the problem on one side.

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On the other side,

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we have an incoming Labour government,

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who are advised by a group of mainstream economists

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and journalists

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who are super, super resistant to taxation.

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There was a tweet by a guy, what was his name?

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Dan Neidle recently, which said,

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if taxing wealth is so easy, why doesn't anybody do it?

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And he showed that, you know, across the world,

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wealth taxation is quite low.

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And, I thought that was quite funny because, you know,

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what we have at the moment is a situation

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where basically across the Western world,

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living standards are falling.

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And it's pretty clear that what is being done

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across the Western world is

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a kind of a unanimous shared economic opinion

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being driven by these

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relatively well-paid economists.

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And it's not working. It's not working.

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And we need to do something different.

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But unfortunately, I think what we have

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is a lot of relatively well-paid

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economists and academics and politicians

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who have decent salaries

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and decent houses and mortgages to pay

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that just don't want to pay any more tax, basically.

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And even though I'm quite explicit,

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I'm not trying to tax them, I'm

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trying to tax the very rich.

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I think they're just very instinctively conservative,

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very instinctively protective.

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I continue to believe that

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we're not going to get change

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delivered to us from well-paid people,

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from the richest people in society.

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You know, I would like this sort of...

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this well-paid middle class

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who are not the sort of asset, super rich

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to support us,

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because I would like them to realise that

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if things keep going

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the way they're going, living standards will collapse.

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And we'll keep

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campaigning them,

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we'll keep lobbying the Labour Party,

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we’ll keep trying to build support.

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But I really don't think we'll win

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unless we have ordinary people demanding it.

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So I'm going to keep doing it.

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And, we're going to keep pushing it

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and hopefully we’ll make it.

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But for the moment, I'm going on holiday.

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For me personally, it's been an absolutely crazy year.

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I wrote a whole book, which, came out in March,

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The Trading Game.

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I've talked about it a lot on the channel.

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It was a Sunday Times

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number one best seller for two weeks.

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It was in the top ten for eight or nine weeks.

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I had press

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all over the world, loads of press in this country.

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It's blown up

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this channel massively.

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I've been getting recognised in the street

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a lot, in the gym, in Lidl, all over the place.

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And that's great.

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It was always part of the plan

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to, sort of, use my face and use my name.

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But it's been a lot, basically. It's been a lot.

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I think people who only watch the videos

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probably don't realise that I'm also

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doing a ton of interviews

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for all different press all over the world,

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and speaking to people

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about how we can sort of grow this movement,

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and also like

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thinking all the time about

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what are the ways that we can communicate

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to push this message out there.

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And, you know, you write a book,

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I was published by Penguin, you know,

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you get a massive amount of support,

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like I had basically a full time

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publicist working with me.

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She was amazing.

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She has to be like,

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take a lot of the credit for

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the growth of this channel.

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But at the end of the day, she's trying to sell books.

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She's not trying to push a political message,

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you know, and,

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I obviously say,

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you know,

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I want to try to push this

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political message,

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but I'm always thinking,

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how can we use this publicity and to help grow

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these ideas?

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And, it's a lot of work.

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It’s been a lot of work creatively.

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I'm always thinking about new ways

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we can push things creatively. And,

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it's just been hard basically, it's exhausting.

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I'm not the kind of person who

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loves being recognised in the street.

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I don't want to tell people

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not to say hi to me in the street

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because everyone's really, really nice

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and I really appreciate everybody's support.

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But it's just weird. It's just I'm no used to it.

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I'll get recognised like seven, eight times a day now,

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and it's just a bit scary.

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And, you know, like,

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weird things happen,

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like Mail on Sunday did a massive, like,

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two page hit piece on me.

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I've got friends from Citibank forwarding

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mails from, like,

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FT reporters asking if there's any dirt,

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any dirt on Gary Stevenson

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which is stressful and stuff.

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You have to sort of,

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it’s new for me, stuff you have to deal with.

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But really more than anything,

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it's just stressful sort of seeing...

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Seeing how difficult it's

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going to be to win this fight.

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I think we've got a long way to go

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before we get accepted by these sort of

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well-paid, fancy posh

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economists who don't like the idea of more taxes.

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We've had the big boost from the book now.

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I need to think about

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how can we keep growing it, as well as

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how can we keep making content?

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And, yeah,

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basically the last month or two,

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I've been pretty exhausted, and,

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I've decided to take a bit of time off.

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Go back to Japan, where I lived for two years,

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do this big cycle I want to do.

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Just basically tear away

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and try and sort of refresh myself creatively,

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which means that we're pre-recording loads.

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I don't think this will go out

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until maybe the end of July, maybe even into August,

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but we're trying to pre-record loads

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so that we don't leave a big gap.

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But we might end up doing a gap.

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Depends sort of what I need personally.

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But I've been thinking about what we're going to do

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when we come back.

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How we are going to manage the channel.

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This year we managed to get, as I've said,

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a little bit of external funding on the channel,

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and that's basically paid

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the wages of my videographer,

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my manager, and we’ve got another guy doing subtitling.

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We had somebody help us

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with just the branding of the channel a little bit.

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But it's tricky,

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external funding is tricky because we had,

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obviously we had the election called early,

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and they didn’t want me to do any political videos.

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So, I basically just funded some videos myself.

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And also the funding will run out at some point

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and we sort of have to decide what to do.

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At the moment,

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the channel is making just kind of roughly enough

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from YouTube revenue

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to pay for the staff that we've got.

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But I think going forward,

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if it's going to be really a thing,

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I'm probably going to need more support,

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a bit more creative support,

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a bit more help

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by structuring the videos,

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managing the videos, managing the YouTube.

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I look at

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how much we’ve grown

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because we’ve had a publicist from Penguin,

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and I do think if we had some real

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PR support on the channel, it could be really bigger.

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So,

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I've been thinking for a while about whether we should

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basically open up for donations

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so that we can hire more staff, and,

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I think I'm going to do that.

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So what I'm planning at the moment is to

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start a not for profit company

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so that anyone who donates, can know

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for sure that the money is not going to me

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and basically open a Patreon,

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see if we get some money in,

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and then maybe just build up a little pot of cash

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so that I can get the support that I need.

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I know that with people that say, well,

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you're a millionaire, Gary you should fund it, but,

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I'm a millionaire that spends most of my time

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working for free on a YouTube channel.

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So, I don't really

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want to start funding it myself as well,

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because, I'm already working for free.

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I've worked on it for free for a long time, and,

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I don’t think it’s going to work basically,

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if we're going to have to make it as big as we need,

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we're going to need staff.

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And I think if we're going to really, really grow,

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we're going to need more people. And,

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I'm not going to be able to keep funding it myself.

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I have funded up till now.

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But if it's going to go,

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we're going to need a bit more money.

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So I think I'm going to open a Patreon.

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I'm not going to say to anybody, you need to donate.

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You need to donate.

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I'm going to open it,

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see what we get,

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and if we get enough money,

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we can hopefully use that to make a few more videos,

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mix up a little bit the creative output,

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make some longer videos,

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get some stuff with animations in.

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But yeah, I think that's what we're going to have to do

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because it's just basically

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getting too big for me to manage it.

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I want to be able to like, totally split

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the finances off.

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Really what I want to get is the finances separate.

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So I can just focus on the creative side

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and not have to worry about having to fund it as well.

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So we'll do that.

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I'll try and get that sorted,

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hopefully before I’m back.

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But first and foremost,

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I'm going to take a little break, go and chill out.

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Try and come back with some good,

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creative stuff because,

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one video

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a week on top of all of these mental interviews

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is quite a lot.

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And sometimes I feel a little bit creatively burnt out.

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But yeah, I'm not going to stop.

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I think the way that this channel

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is going to go,

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I'm probably always going to have to

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take bits of time out to just escape the pressure

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and the constant creative churn,

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because it's hard to do something

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good, new, creative once a week.

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But, I'll keep doing it.

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I'll keep doing that at a pace that works for me.

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We'll open for funding, but we won't paywall

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any of the content.

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We'll just see what we get

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and whether that means we can grow

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more quickly and get

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get more staff and get more support.

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If you do choose to donate,

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we'll really appreciate that.

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But for now,

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thank you very much for all of your support,

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whether that's in the last 2 or 3 months,

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whether that's in the last 3 or 4 years.

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Thanks for your supporting on the channel.

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I really, truly believe if we don't manage

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to get some action on this rapidly

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growing inequality, that it will have

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a devastating impact on ordinary people.

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But I think we can. I think we can do it.

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I think if you see the growth of this channel

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this year, it shows that demand is there.

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I'll do my best to try to get the strategy right.

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If we get a bit of funding,

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then I'll try and get some experts in who are not

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economists trying to run a YouTube channel on the side.

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But we'll keep growing.

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We're going to get opportunities here and

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people are supporting it,

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and, I'll keep fighting for it

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if you keep fighting for it,

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but maybe not for the next couple of months.

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Have a good summer. And,

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good luck.

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Thank you.