all right good morning everybody welcome
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back to the conversational money podcast
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i hope you guys had an amazing weekend
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so this is going to be a second week in
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a row where i've had a guest on the show
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requires and demands your attention and
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when i say that i mean that seriously
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in 2011 he was city's most profitable
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trader globally so he really really does
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so i'm going to introduce him in a
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about um the importance of building
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wealth and what that actually means i
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world of trading and financial services
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so i know that i've given a very brief
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to you there but
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overview of you know who you are where
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you started how you became a trader that
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we can get into the whole wealth
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creation because i think a lot of the
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traditional journey and
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your outlook and the way you put things
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is reflective of that experience as well
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yeah so yeah as you say my background is
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not really the typical background of a
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trader i guess yeah so um i'm from
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and i managed to get into lse london
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um you know lse is like a sort of top
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university but even once you get there
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the different investment banks i didn't
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really know what i was doing but um i
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heard that citibank used to hire one
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trader a year through um through a card
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game which was basically a maths game
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and um when i was a kid i used to love
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mata and i used to do math competitions
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and stuff like this it's sort of like
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not the coolest thing but it was my my
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talent and i went in for this card game
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and i won and um i got a job basically
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the credit crunch um so yeah things blew
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up pretty quickly when i was there
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people in my team started to make or
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i just sort of
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tried to get involved tried to make as
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much money as i could try to understand
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move and um
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i did quite well in the first couple of
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economists have been predicting a big
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recovery every single year um 2008 they
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affecting ordinary people i couldn't see
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people there would be no recovery and
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and uh yeah i did it only really for
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sort of another year and a bit after
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that um because i every time i looked at
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the economy and i had to put bets on i
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a handle on inequality they're not
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dealing with it so the future's going to
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be bad then you know i kept betting the
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future was going to be bad and i kept
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money and um
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yeah after a year and a half i just said
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to my boss look i can't do this anymore
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and do something about it so uh see i
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wearing capes and they weren't
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articles in newspapers on websites um
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importance of inequality um
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what's going to happen the future of the
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economy and yeah talking to people like
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you peter and we're going to explain
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it's like super important because having
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like traveled my journey from like a
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poor background to like having a very
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quite a lot of money myself
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i think there's a lot of ways in which
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world is and how it works absolutely
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straight away if you're not following on
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youtube and you're not following him on
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his social medias i will leave all of
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the links in the show notes definitely
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go and follow one thing that i love
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about you and one of my followers um
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tagged me in one of your videos on
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very simple so that anybody can
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intentionally because
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the industry wants to be seen as the
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experts you have to go to them in order
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in very simple language is really
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important and that's what you you tend
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to do which is why i was really
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interested to have you on this podcast
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another podcast as well that we're going
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about wealth and what wealth is
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okay so i think for ordinary people and
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ordinary background when they think
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that's the difference between rich and
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poor you know do you have a good job do
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um so people think about what they think
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about their job but your job is not
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wealth your job and your salary is a
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the most obvious manifestation of that
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in ordinary people's lives is do you own
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a house or not do you want a flat or not
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do you own the property that you live in
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limited and limiting understanding of
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ordinary people especially nowadays
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especially here where i am in london
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it's so difficult just to get a house
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that we just think that's what i want
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that's what i need i want a house and
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it's super important to get house and
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that's super super limiting right
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load of skyscrapers down there somebody
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owns those skyscrapers you know what i
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mean somebody owns lloyd's bank on your
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somebody owns all them restaurants you
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know somebody owns h m all of these
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shops right and you know that's just in
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fields there's there's iron mines you
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know what i mean all of these things are
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owned and i think for ordinary people
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who are just struggling to save up to
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think that because ordinary people
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basically never get to own those things
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once you broaden your understanding of
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this office building that you work in
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realizing those things you realize wow
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in the world that i don't own you know
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i'm sitting here now looking out the
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get to own these things so
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natural resources like land and
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so listeners might be thinking well i
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so who owns these things and that leads
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us to my first big point which is when
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we understand wealth which is who owns
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country and our cities
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unequally distributed than income
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which makes sense in a way because you
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know one person could only work one job
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property and buildings and natural
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resources you know if we look at jeff
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bezos the richest man in the world he's
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of assets of wealth and that people
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sometimes i think visualize that as if
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jeff bezos has a bank account somewhere
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bank accounts with enormous amounts of
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cash well i mean they do but not 200
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resources and those resources are real
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of real wealth in the world it's not an
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distributed and ordinary people who are
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don't often realize what an enormous
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so my background is is very similar to
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yours in terms of not from a wealthy
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background at all so you tend to like
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kind of work your way up and you know
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you're right income is just income
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wealth is very very different and you've
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religious to the fact that now that we
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have a whole generation of people who
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are struggling just to get the deposit
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in most cases for most people
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so once you own that property you've got
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you're right it's very very difficult
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then to put your head above the parapet
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to see actually that there's all this
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how much of a role do you think
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number one education has to play in the
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misunderstanding of what true wealth is
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basically which is um
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um but on the other side we have a
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difficult for ordinary people to get
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there's there's this educational problem
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mean obviously they're not taught in
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school you know people like yourself and
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make clear is you know
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the super super rich are unbelievably
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people obviously they don't agree with
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my message they don't want to be taxed
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more right but and they own things
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the washington post is putting out
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articles that oh we shouldn't tax the
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rich you know what i mean jeff bezos
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being rich is good for you and you know
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look at who owns look at who owns the
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times the telegraph the daily mail it's
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well the classic one which you see in
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he's got a house and they want to send
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this message to you that the reason why
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young people and to be honest you know
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of course like you know you love young
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listeners out there and they know that's
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where it's so difficult for younger
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people and you know then that represents
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older people might not vote for parties
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that want to make things fairer or they
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might not support systems to make things
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obviously you know i make videos saying
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funding from richard branson for that
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billionaires they fund think tanks to
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then they want you to spend it all in um
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louis vuitton you know what i mean
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because they what they want is your
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assets you know they want to own the
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things that you want and that's not
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people are terrible i totally don't
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believe that but you know i've been poor
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and i've been rich and the fact is
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that generates a huge amount of income
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yeah exactly and that is the sort of the
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second key point that i want to make
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you own wealth or own large amounts of
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wealth that starts to generate an income
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and that income can be enormous right
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and you know for ordinary people that
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you know might be trying to save up 20
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grand 50 grand 100 grand if they're
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lucky to buy a house those are not going
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that wealth will generate an income
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grand a year off that 2 million pounds
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if you've got 10 million pounds well
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you'll be making like 300 grand a year
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that that's something like 20 million
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once people become very rich they
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and you know if you are making 300 grand
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a year just for getting out of bed
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but what will you do you know if you're
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making 300 grand a year without working
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year you're going to spend
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100 grand you can live a great life
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spend 100 grand a year and you're going
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to use that 200 grand to buy other
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assets so they that's what they do and
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that's what they do 100 percent that's
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what they need to reinvest yeah and
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that's what you know that's what i do
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i'm relatively wealthy and i'm an
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investor and i spend the part of what i
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make and live off it and the rest i
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invest you know that's it's not the rich
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people are evil it's just they're rich
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because once you are rich you generate a
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huge income and then it's very easy for
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ordinary people who don't have that
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wealth need those assets too and the
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but it's important to understand that
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income that they make it don't come out
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of thin air so when you go to tesco some
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of that money goes to the workers in
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tesco but some of it goes to the dude
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who owns tesco and the dude who owns
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that building you know what i mean yeah
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and this is the same for every single
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barbers right somebody goes to the
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barber and some of them when it goes to
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the owner of the building and when you
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work when you go to work in an office
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building some of your wage goes to the
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owner of that building so and you know
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you see this all the time so the money
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that goes to your mortgage you don't
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disappear it goes to the owners of the
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mortgage the money that goes on your
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a massive flow of income from ordinary
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people who need to live in those houses
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who need to eat the food who need to go
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to the supermarket who need to pay for
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their bills that goes to the owners of
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the assets right so it creates this
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massive flow so the system as it is it
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and they want you to
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be happy with it and accept it and they
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realizing that they own the skyscrapers
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people would say hey like
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why don't we get a share of this why
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can't we own a bit of this you know i
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mean so of course they're like totally
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ordinary people get their wages they
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give it to those rich guys and the rich
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houses and then ordinary people's kids
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then you know
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you also sort of ask the question of you
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know what can what can people do
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um you know i think a big part of what
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people need to understand that what's
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out there you know i always call for
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that wealthy people generate an income
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and i'm saying this was a total
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understanding of how difficult it can be
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people they need to understand that
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of course you do need to get a good job
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if you can and you need to try and get
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your kids in the good jobs if you can
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because you need the income yeah yeah
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exactly you know you can't get the
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wealth until you have the income it's
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not you're going to get out of nowhere
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but then once you have that income yeah
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building wealth and you know the first
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thing for most people is as i've said as
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ownership and it's important to
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the rich guy is still on your house
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because you know they own like five six
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of your house right so get that property
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pay the mortgage down get that financial
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security for yourself try and do that
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for your children you know and that's um
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it's difficult but that's what you need
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we have this systemic problem where
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because we're allowing the rich to get
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so rich it's pushing house prices up and
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that's creating a systemic problem which
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i think we need to look at how we can
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deal with it politically we're using our
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pressure as a group to enforce the
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problem because you know we have in this
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is literally a billionaire and remember
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a billionaire is not a millionaire right
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a billionaire has 1 000 million pounds
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um so he doesn't want the rich to pay
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more taxes you know what i mean but if
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we don't make them pay more taxes then
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we got to pay their taxes and if we've
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got to pay the taxes then we ain't going
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to be able to afford to buy houses
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so yeah it's a balance yeah so this this
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because i think that there is something
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there and and there are common arguments
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i'm interested to know your thoughts on
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information education around what wealth
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really is and the fundamental steps that
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it takes in order to get yourself on the
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i hate social media
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the contextual sense of information and
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it's only there literally to make
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and that's something that i struggle
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how do you find it when you see you know
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traders specifically on on instagram you
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know in front of bentley's and all this
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them but really without any real
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education right i understand young
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they're living in a world that's going
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you know and then they're seeing people
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go off going off and working in the city
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and making a million quid a year
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and you know they're seeing people on
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you know i can guarantee making money
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trading on the internet and you know
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street american psycho and big short
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advertised on buses and everyone's
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and you just want to work
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you know my dad works for the post
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office for 35 years right and he's got a
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in a world where ordinary people
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just want to get financial security
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and then suddenly they're bombarded by
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they're thinking oh my god i'm an idiot
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i need to get involved with this you
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know i mean i'm not doing this i'm a
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loser that's almost yeah but not even
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the thing i want to add to that is that
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financial security you've taken the
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sensible route you know what i mean
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because work isn't working and you know
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like if you make the sensible route work
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increasingly the sensible route is not
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working for young people you know i mean
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i get messages from a lot of young men
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i'm going to get a house i don't know
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are vulnerable basically and then you
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see people popping up on social media
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and i think some of them some of some of
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but other people really they're just
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they're just in it for hype like they
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they're putting out messages and
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that is coming up at the moment there's
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two big things one is crypto but the
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thing which as a former trader i'm more
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really really aggressively right and um
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millions of people using etoro like
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i see messages on instagram of people
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like posting all their trades right um
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is that if i talk a little bit about one
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two three i'm not gonna mention them by
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well first of all the beginning of code
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i put some articles out right saying i
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think these things are gonna happen you
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know my job is a trade that's why i made
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some market predictions i said i think
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stock prices will go up gold price will
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go up this is about 18 months ago
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of people contacted me right and people
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saying i don't know what to do and i
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told him you can you can bet on these
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things if you want you know maybe that
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was a bit you know irresponsible of me
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but you know i wasn't i wasn't in the
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investment game at that point so like
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okay people jumped in and um a lot of
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these guys lost money and i was like how
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did you manage to lose money right like
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understand they don't understand the
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risk management side to it though well
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what it is is they get dragged into this
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social media world and people tell you
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it's easy do this do that bet on this
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bit on that right and um this guy sent
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guy's following an instagram right
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and the guy has posted like 10 trades
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and he's trading gold right and he's
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made money on every trade and what he's
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dollars 128 and buying it back at 1727
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okay which is like the tiniest tiniest
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little move right and like these prices
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move you'll probably get it right
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and he's done that ten times right and
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thousand dollars all right
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and he said it's easy i make money every
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time right and i was thinking how's this
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guy managed to make you 500 on such a
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tiny tiny tiny little move right so i
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did the maths each single one of them
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of them trades right this is the thing
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that's the thing that frustrates me
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they'll show oh these are the problems
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that i've made but okay how much money
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have you put on the line especially for
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exactly this stuff you're in debt if it
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goes the wrong way that's the thing what
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these guys are doing yeah yeah they put
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massive massive bets on things that are
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99 likely to happen and then you make
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like 100 quid right and what but in that
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could lose half a million pounds
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right like you could wait until
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liverpool are like three no up and then
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bet a million pounds on them to win and
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you win 50 quid and you could do that
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right they're looking at things are
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almost going to happen and betting a
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million quid on it and then if you do
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that of course you'll win again and
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again and again and again and again
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and what happens when you lose
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and it's ins and but of course like
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people watching it you know some of
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these guys are like 18 quid betting
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their student loan money 18 years old
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but then they're using loan money right
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and they don't know they just see here's
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listing 20 trades making 20 trades all
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if you understand what's happening it is
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we got put in touch on instagram and
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like the first thing i did i have to
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look at your videos and we had a talk
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right because i worry there's a lot of
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guys out there that are giving such
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irresponsible advice you know i saw that
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the stuff you did was was good advice
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but like how do the people out there
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know like it's it's man it's a difficult
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world for the ordinary people and that's
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that's what i that's what keeps me going
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it's like i watch videos sometimes and
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i've stopped now because it used to
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frustrated like some of this nonsense
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that people spew and i'm like okay so if
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you're an 18 year old just start you
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youtube you're gonna find all these
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factual what's fallacy you have no idea
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you're just gonna go with the one that's
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nitty-gritty we know that obviously
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there's that educational gap you and i
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are trying to plug and provide as much
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those changes because the politicians
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just move their companies and they'll
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a burden on the tax system and therefore
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you then have or the benefit system and
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then you have to try and get those
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they've moved their businesses it's
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futile you're going around in circles so
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do we actually begin
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you know i was talking to a friend about
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this other day right and this friend of
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you know i mean and um
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what i said to him was look if we don't
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is a slow-motion economic disaster for
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people of this world right so
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what he said was actually like this is
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similar to what i do because look it's
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not easy to stop terrorism it's not easy
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to stop terrorists but if we don't do it
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it's a disaster right so we have to try
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and do it right and it's the same with
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they're super super rich they're super
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super powerful but if we don't find a
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way to tax them then they will
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increasingly own more and more and more
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of the wealth in this country and in the
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world and this planet and that will mean
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our lives will get worse and worse
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history in this country where inequality
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outcomes like for ordinary people
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when people say it's impossible i always
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say well actually we did it we did it if
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you study a bit of history you'll see
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the countries of europe decided look
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good education good health care good
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countries did it together there was
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nowhere for the rich people to run to
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you know what i mean and you know we're
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people northern families in this country
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but it's not just in this country you
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know i used to live in japan japan is a
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is a relatively equal country but it's
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things are getting worse and worse
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but it's the same france italy spain
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but it's making the situation worse for
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every country in the same way and it's
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together and um
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look if we don't do something it will be
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a disaster i don't do this because i
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it's a question of like there's a
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international cooperation it will
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require lots of people to work together
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to push the power pool to push the
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politicians to do it but if you don't do
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losing your houses your grandkids will
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so yeah of course 100 is difficult and
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you know i'm not going to do it by
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myself on youtube but if enough people
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get behind me and start doing their own
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thing and start realizing look we need
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more equality of wealth equality of
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opportunity then it can happen and it
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was done after the second world war but
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look it's not going to be easy and you
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win or not but i know that i'm going to
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what do you think because
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i've always had a look at this and i've
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always kind of struggled and i i
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appreciate it but i understand that it
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that is the big world because it is
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capitalism enables the jeff bezos and an
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right so like
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as you know i worked in a bank for a
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long time and then i went to university
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i studied economics right and it's only
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i've been started to be sort of seen as
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portrayed as an activist in a sense i
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less inequality a fairer tax system a
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activist right and because i'm pushing
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of left-wing activist circles this kind
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a particularly left-wing guy i worked
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trying to make a lot of money
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yeah but like um
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a broken system and um
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basically my worry with that is it's not
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specific is it like let's say like your
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car wasn't working and you took your car
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to the garage and the mechanic said
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your car is the problem you know what i
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mean like yeah yeah yeah look i know my
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car is the problem tell me how to fix it
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you know what i mean and like look i'm
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an economist alright three years at lse
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two years at oxford i was one of the top
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traders in the world one of the biggest
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telling you specifically what is wrong
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wealth that's not inequality of income
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this is not about doctors and lawyers
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accumulating all the wealth and taking
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our wealth right and it's about a tax
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system that doesn't tax them and does
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you can have a capitalist system that
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has fair taxation you know we don't have
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capitalist system that does not have
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extreme inequality we don't have it but
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these big words like capitalism
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look the system that we have is a
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we can fix them problems okay
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and then you know
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i you know i consider myself to be a
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capitalist right but this system for me
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capitalism is a system where if you work
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hard you do your things you study hard
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you work hard you make money you get a
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financial security but that's not
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happening is it what's happening now is
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you get house if your dad had a house
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you know what i mean yeah really this is
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feudalist system from the middle ages
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where how rich you are is basically
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about how rich your dad was or how even
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how rich your granddad was you know what
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i mean so like what i want
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and you can call it capitalism you could
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call it socialism you can call it
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whatever you want i want an economy
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where if you work hard you make your
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money or if you work really hard you can
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be rich that's what i want i want i want
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a society that an economy that gives
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people opportunity to have a good house
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or if you want to just do your thing and
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get financial security as long as you're
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willing to to do your work and try hard
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i want a capitalism that works i don't
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want a capitalism that is about who your
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dad is that's which is what we've got
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now and you know personally for me i
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been speaking for you explain this
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what happens with obviously covid and
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this whole wealth cycle and you broke it
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down beautifully in a video on youtube
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background whilst you've been speaking i
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can't find it what i'm going to do is
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i'm going to link it in the description
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beautifully there in terms of the cycle
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just been through with covid and furlow
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it's it's a cycle that is broken we need
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forward and i just
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as you were saying that it reminded me
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of that video that you made and i think
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what everything you just said there
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i studied economics before i went into
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about inequality basically then i went
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constantly saying things are going to
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get better next year things are going to
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get better next year things are going to
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get better next year and they weren't
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getting better next year and you know i
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came to the conclusion that this is
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because all of the money that was being
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pulled into the economy and there was a
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huge amount back in 2008 there's a huge
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amount now it wasn't going to ordinary
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people it goes to rich people and you
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they don't really spend it because
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they're already rich they don't need to
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spend more right and so they just use it
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to buy houses well that actually makes
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all the new people worse off you know so
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whenever anything big happens in the
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what's going to happen to inequality and
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at the beginning of coverage
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it was a crazy thing that happened right
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because it looked like nobody was losing
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jobs but the government gave them
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see the government pouring this money
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into the system and i was like well
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what used to be their wages right
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so all this money is getting poured in
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oh and i was i was thinking about this
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for ages like well where's actually is
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the money okay well the money that they
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so actually the money was sitting with
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who has very large spending on luxuries
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it's richard people yeah exactly so then
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i figured it down what's going to happen
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is we're going to see a massive increase
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in the size of the bank accounts of
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wealthier and higher income people and i
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called that at the beginning of cover
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people spend on property stocks and
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shares so what you're going to see is
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property go up and stocks and shares go
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up and i was saying that back in the
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was analyzing it from an inequality
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perspective i could see that it was the
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rich were going to make the money that's
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what they were going to do and obviously
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going to be economic disaster stocks
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will fall houses will fall and i was out
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there saying these things will go up and
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you've made an interesting point which
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um i i want to circle back to
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and i wonder i don't know whether you
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and like
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where you grew up like you you said that
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the the wealthy guys in the in in in the
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bank at the time who were training were
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predicting that things were going to get
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better you were looking at it from a
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they were just thinking about it's going
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from my social economic economic group
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people in my group it's not going to get
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better it's going to get worse and
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and you are right when other people are
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wrong you can make a lot of money right
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a lot of money right and you know that's
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you know i was back there in 2011 but it
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went on right so in 2009 they said it
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would be 2010 2010 2011 2011 2012 and
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every single year and even if you go
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back to the beginning of 2020 they were
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still saying it will get better later
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this year every single year that's like
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12 13 years it's insane this is if you
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watch the penalty shootout and all 20
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players hit it off for throwing on the
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uh i've thought about for a long time
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they be so wrong and um
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i think what you're saying is a big part
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of it right but it's not conscious the
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fact is nowadays you know it's not just
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they don't know anyone paul they never
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even really met anyone poor right so and
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they're sitting there you know pockets
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bursting with cash and they're saying of
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course things are going to get better
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because they can't see anything else and
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from ordinary backgrounds they never mix
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with these people they can't get into
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the same universities they can't get the
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idea they have not like how can you be
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an economist when you only know what
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life is like for one percent of people
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in the richest countries in the world
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yeah and the top one percent by the way
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they're there and it's honestly it's
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it's unbelievable how bad people used to
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message me saying like oh i'm going to
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right they asked the traders our
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basically is the economy going to
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recover and the traders always say it
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will go up right so then people are
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saying should i get like a five-year
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tracker at like three and a half percent
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i've seen in the daily mail that
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interest rates are gonna go up and i
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tell them look don't get the i don't get
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the fixed rate because rates ain't never
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going to go up and they're like but the
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newspapers are all saying it and then
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you know and then i say just get the
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track because rates won't go up and they
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come back to me in six months like how
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did you know but then the ironic thing
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is this though the newspapers are saying
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they're owned by the rich guys that when
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assumption that interest rates are going
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to go up you're putting more money in
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their pocket anyway but you're not going
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that i think literally
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these guys who all went to the same
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university so always patting each other
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they are they literally just don't
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realize what they're doing like i went
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you know why have you guys predicted
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interest rates wrong for 10 years and he
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said to me no that's not right we
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haven't played it wrong for 10 years i
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couldn't believe it i went back home and
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years and you haven't even realized
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you've done it because look they don't
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get punished they don't lose money you
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it upsets me really because you know i
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come from quite a poor area you know i
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recent immigrant kids that was working
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you know they don't get these
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opportunities and then i go to work you
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know in these big skyscrapers in canary
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universities and a lot of them just
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yeah i mean i guess it gave me
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opportunity to to make the right bets
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but yeah i think the these the problem
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that we have especially in economics is
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like really smart people are not being
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unbelievably good at maths which means
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that you tend to attract quite massive
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know that's why i'm out there you know
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as i can
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the way you got that job by the way when
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you were saying that at the top of this
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conversation the the thing that i that
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ultimately pops to mind and it's my
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favorite movie of all time is um pursuit
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of happiness that's what it reminded me
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of playing a game one in turn one job
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per year you have to go into a kind of
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reminded me of that
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suddenly like everyone was sending all
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these series cover letters and like you
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know it's that classic thing right like
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i was very very good shooting at school
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right top gcses top a levels i was good
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in my exams but then it come to like
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applying for these jobs and these guys
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concert cellist and you know
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because and you know they've all got the
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top grades you know what i mean and it's
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antarctica and stuff on their cover
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letter and you know i was working in dfs
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fluffing pillows you know what i mean
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it's like you know to pay for my degree
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from ordinary backgrounds are getting
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don't have the connections they don't
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yeah obviously i enjoy the fact that i
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beat them in a competition but i was
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lucky to get that you know what i mean
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and it's um you know i talk about
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are getting like blocked out you know
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obviously we've had this week in the
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news we've had the gcc and a love
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results and we've seen kids from private
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schools do much much better even though
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they didn't do exams you know what i
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mean you just see an ordinary people
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somebody comes from an ordinary
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these top jobs
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and have a diverse group of people there
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but you know
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bunch of rich people saying like
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everything's great all the time and you
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know i know that gave me opportunity to
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make money but like at the same time the
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fact is you know it's not just finance
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you know nowadays i'm not more involved
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even worse than finances but everyone
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there is like from a super super super
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i want to talk about economics so i went
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on i did an interview for times radio
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and uh they put me on against somebody
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you sound like she's never left eaten
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you know what i mean and um ian is a
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boys school so i guess she didn't go
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there but you know i mean whatever the
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female equivalent is and she was saying
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i was saying look people are struggling
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thinking in your speech
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how can you even say that like these the
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problem is that people in the me it's
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people that finance they all come from
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that elite circle and then they're all
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saying things are fine so you know
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that's why i might have put videos on
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just to hear about economics from
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somebody who has you know i understand
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that i'm rich now but i grew up poor and
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i've got friends who are still like that
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who actually understands it from both
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do this that's hardly anyone yeah
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absolutely i did a talk in east london
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ago and um
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so one of my old friends who i used to
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work with in canada wharf um he now runs
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their like curriculum and he goes you
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would be a great person to come and
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speak to the kids given your journey and
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stuff like that and little did i know
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they had someone from the bank they had
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the governor bank of england in there
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they had about 20 speakers or so and i
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didn't know this at the time but i
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rocked up and i was like listen this is
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how i managed to get through cane wolf
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these are the lessons that i've learned
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in terms of practicality in terms of
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social economic groups of these people
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but you i have i firmly believe that
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some well it has worked for me anyway
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that you have to be able to move between
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those worlds seamlessly i just gave him
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some really practical tips and you know
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and resonated because
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i looked like them i sounded like them
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and i was pretty much them when i was
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uh children and kids from our kind of
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background to see examples of this is
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possible because i know there were kids
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in tower hamlet we'll look at canewolf i
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think there's absolutely no way that i'm
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and i believe that actually i don't have
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a university degree oh i got a job in
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you know met life in canada wharf and
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ended up on the exec team was number one
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work and
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learning on on the go how to play the
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and tangible things that you learn
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through the years and those i think need
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to be passed down to kids so that they
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i mean i remember you know i'm 34 now
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yours like you know and i'm from london
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but i could be for anywhere really i
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manchester i could be here from
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when you hear somebody's voice like
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whether they had like a very privileged
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upbringing you know and you just didn't
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hear like for me growing up like i just
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wasn't hearing voices like mine on the
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yeah i remember like when i was a kid
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that was when sort of the grime scene
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blew up and people like while in did you
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ask for coming out and then for me it
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was just like it was amazing just to
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hear people who sounded like they were
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from where i'm from you know what i mean
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it was just to hear voices and you know
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you know that's why like i try and
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do what i do you know i've got like a
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a bbc documentary coming out i want to
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like be on tv like just um it's not for
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be able to
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hear voices like mine on tv you know i
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mean here on the radio and it is
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important it does make a difference yeah
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but i'm always sort of torn because i
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know how difficult it is for young
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people like and i don't want to like
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i don't want to just give like a track
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message like if you work hard you can do
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poorer background nowadays you need
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everything you need to work hard for
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sure you need to be smart for sure but
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the fact is you need a bit of luck as
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well yeah you know i won that game but
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you know it's a bit like you know i was
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good at it but i could have lost it on a
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have gone the wrong way um
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so i think it's like it's a double
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message what i wanna send to like
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younger people is look you can do it you
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can do it you need to really work hard
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to do it but look if you do work hard
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and you don't hit them heights you want
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to you need to understand that this
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system was was always rigged against you
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that doesn't mean you're weak it doesn't
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if you're from an ordinary background
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i've been there i've been in the sea
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there ain't nobody that speaks like me
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there you know what i mean so if you're
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coming out and you're speaking like me
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you're in a difficult position from the
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start so wherever you get to i want you
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to be proud of where you get to and to
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mean you're not as smart as them you
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know what i mean like so just um
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yeah it's balanced look and you know
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can get property
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but you know if you don't end up like
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that doesn't mean that you're not as
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good as those guys that have that
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because we have a system we have a world
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that that stops you from getting there
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so yeah do every bit you can but like
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don't beat yourself up if you don't if
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you don't catch up with those people
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you uh man i i 100
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agree with you on that one um yeah 100
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i'm on similar path to you at the minute
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because again it's representation i want
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kids to be able to you know know where
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i've got where i've come from my
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background and where i where i got to
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me excited about it is
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how inspiring it can be and i think
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sometimes you just need someone to like
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that fuse and if i could be an example
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to a young kid who's 16 17 as that
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little spark that sets them off then for
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me that would be that makes all of it
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worthwhile i would love to be remembered
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look at things beyond their immediate
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environment and dare to just venture but
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yeah i agree with 100 what you just said
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they feel like there's somebody like me
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in that kind of space and you're the
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first person they've seen like yeah for
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i said i remember you know obviously
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i've not gone on the same career path as
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these were people being successful that
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spoke like me and that were from where
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i'm from and that was the first time
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that i saw that you know what i mean you
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know i used to go down late in orion and
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watch the guys like young guys you know
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i didn't go into football but i didn't
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go into music but just to see like
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people that speak like you people that
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grew up similar to you that know that
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kind of thing being successful like yeah
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it's it's important yeah so yeah yeah
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keep doing what you're doing yeah you
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people are seeing your stuff so yeah
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conversation um is there anything that
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we haven't covered or anything that you
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i mean i think we've covered the main
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stuff we wanted to talk about like
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what is wealth that's the main thing
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yeah just to recap you know to
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there um ordinary people ain't getting
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and the poor get poorer um
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i would like to speak to the older
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own property that i think they're
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think about your kids think about your
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grandkids you know if house prices go up
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that might look good now but that means
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your kids and grandkids can't afford the
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going to have four grandkids maybe
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you're going to have 10 or they ain't
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do your thing do your hustle work hard
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and you'll understand because i did that
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but at the same time if you make your
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money or even if you don't understand
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that as a group ordinary people poor
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people are being hurt here and if we you
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you need to come together and push that
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political side and i'm not talking about
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party political here you know you don't
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need to you don't 100 need to vote for
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the labour party or whatever but push
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you know and i think things like brexit
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for example show and you know people
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think what they like about brexit but
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they show that if enough people demand
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distribution of wealth man make wealth
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more equals don't make it so every
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single generation it's just the kids of
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the rich people um who get rich yeah
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economics as well yeah go follow um make
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i was delighted that natasha actually
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hooked us up on on the on the instagram
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definitely definitely need to speak but
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we are going to have another uh podcast
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episode that will come out after this at
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some point we've also got a youtube live
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session um actually uh planned as well
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so you can watch us have a conversation
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just like this one live on youtube and
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guys thank you so much for for listening
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this as well um guys until next week
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remember money is a tool life is for
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