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We Will Lose The Property Owning Middle Class

April 30, 2023
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okay today we are going to talk about what I  think is one of the most important economic  

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changes of the last twenty-thirty years I'm very confident it's going to continue and  

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dominate the economy for the next 20 years  if you want to understand what's going to  

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happen in our economy you need to understand  this and it is the death of the middle class

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okay so what do I mean when I say the death of  the middle class well the first thing is we need  

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to define what we mean by the middle class this  is a term that different people mean differently  

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for the purpose of this video when I talk about  the middle class what I mean is people who are  

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not rich but have some ownership of wealth so  in this country it basically means anyone who  

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owns their own property essentially so the UK has  a reputation for being a very unequal country but  

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in reality if we compare it to all of the countries  across the world and also what the UK was like  

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for most of its history, it is actually a relatively  equal country and what I mean when I say that is  

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this country still has today a relatively broad  property owning middle class what that means is  

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most people own the property that they live in  which means they do have some level of wealth  

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even if they're not super rich so let's talk a little  bit about the wealth distribution first of all  

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in this country property residential property  is still quite broadly owned a lot of people  

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own their own property once we start looking  at commercial property, financial wealth, debt  

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then we start seeing almost all of that world is  owned by richer people and they've increasingly  

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the very rich but residential property has some level of broad ownership so what that means  

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is we do have a broad property owning middle  class and that is true in the US and it's true  

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in Australia, in Japan and most of Western Europe  there is a broad property owning middle class now  

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what you need to understand is that is not really  normal either internationally or across history  

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so if you go to look at most of Latin America  or most of Africa or many places in Asia  

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what you have is very unequal countries where  most people do not own much wealth at all you  

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have a very large poor group and a small  very rich group and you do not have this  

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broad property owning middle class like we have  here that's also true if you look throughout  

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history right so before the second world wars  in the early 20th century in the 19th century  

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in the industrial revolution what you had in  this country was different to what you have now  

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so at this point in time most people own or  their family owns the property they live in  

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it's decreasing over time but still most do  whereas if you were to look in the *1800s* 

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the vast majority of people here in London the vast  majority were renting very few people own their  

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own home and there was not broad wealth ownership  so this broad property owned middle class  

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you need to understand that even though it has  been normal for the last 50-60 years it is not normal  

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either across the world or throughout the  history of capitalism and if anything the  

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last 70 years have been very special historically  in the sense that we have had this broad property  

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owning middle class here, in the US, in Australia  and in Europe & I think one big thing that has  

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dominated the economy over the last 20 years and  will definitely dominate it going forward is that  

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that middle class is slowly dying and what I mean  by that is the middle class is losing their assets  

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and that is happening in two ways, one the direct  loss of the assets themselves so in this country  

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asset ownership by non-rich people is almost  always in the form of property if you look at  

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younger people their rate of property ownership is  collapsing so the number one way which the middle  

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class dies loses their assets is direct loss of  property and the second way is increased debt  

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which means ordinary people have to go deeper into  debt to fund their lifestyles but increasingly if  

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you want to own a property the only way to do  that is to take out enormous amounts of debt  

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now this in my opinion is has really dominated  the economy especially since 2008 and my big  

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sort of penny drop moment when I realised what was  happening with the economy was when I was a trader  

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and I was trying to deal with the question of 'why  is it that people can't spend much money?' this has  

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been the dominant economic narrative since 2008  and when I looked into the situation of ordinary  

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families and also of governments what I saw was  ordinary families were losing their wealth over time  

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you can see this in the form of decreased property ownership rates and also governments were  

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losing their wealth you could see this in the form  of governments falling deeper and deeper into debt  

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so that has created a situation where we have  economic weakness because families and governments  

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can't spend because they're losing their wealth over time now when we consider this loss of wealth  

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of the middle class in many ways what we are  seeing is the mirror image of something which I  

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have spoken about a lot already on this channel  which is the rapid growth and snowballing of  

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wealth of the very rich now when you consider  the wealth distribution you need to understand  

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we have this property owning middle class all the  know people that in many cases own their own homes  

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but when it comes to the broader commercial  infrastructure of our economies the factories,  

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the skyscrapers, the office buildings, food production, energy production  

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all of this commercial infrastructure is largely  owned by the rich and that means that every single  

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month every single year ordinary people have to  spend a lot of money which goes to the rich in  

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order to get things like food, energy, transport,  the basic essentials of life or even housing  

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if you don't own your own home and this creates  enormous flows of wealth to the rich every year  

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the flows of wealth are so enormous that  rich people can't spend them, Rishi Sunak as  

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I've said many times on the channel gets a  passive income of 20-30 million pounds a year  

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they can't spend that money so  they use that money to buy assets  

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and when you have a growing economy this isn't  necessarily a bad thing you're creating all of 

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this new economic wealth, these new assets,  new factories, new office blocks and the rich  

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will own those new assets when it becomes a  really big problem is when that growth slows down  

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so when economies stop growing you are still  having to pay all of that money to the rich  

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every year the rich are still receiving all that  money every year what do they do with that money  

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if they can't buy new assets because there are  not good investment opportunities they will still  

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receive that money and what they start to do is  they use that money to buy your assets and I think  

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what's really interesting is the things that  the rich people do with those money with that  

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money often appears good from the perspective  of the middle class so when the rich get that  

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money and they're not investing they either  buy your assets or they lend you that money  

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from the perspective of a middle class person what  you see is the rich want to buy my house, my house  

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price is going up, the rich want to lend me money  I have increased availability of mortgages and  

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both of those things seem good right you are an  ordinary family your house price is going up great  

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you can get more access to mortgages great  these are good things but if we think about  

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what it is actually doing in terms of flows  of wealth that is rich people buying houses  

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from more middle class families and often this  happens generationally rich people take the  

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money, they give it to their kids, their kids have  a large amount of money, they go out and they buy  

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the houses that maybe your kids would have bought  and instead of your house going to your kids or  

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another kid from an ordinary middle class family  ends up going to rich people when they lend money  

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what that means is it might seem good for you  if you can get a mortgage but if the rich are  

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lending more then that means everybody can get a  big mortgage and that means you are competing with  

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people who can get big mortgages and what that  means is it becomes impossible for ordinary middle  

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class people to buy property without taking a  massive mortgage essentially from the rich so you  

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create a situation where on the one hand middle  class families are selling their properties to the  

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rich and on the other hand if they are actually  able to keep property the only way to do it is by  

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taking a massive debt from the rich so you have  two sides of the same coin here right massive  

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wealth accumulation from the rich is mirrored by  loss of assets for the middle class and increase  

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of debt for the middle class and exactly  the same thing is happening for governments  

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governments are losing their assets governments  are going into debt and you can see how this is  

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it's impossible for the rich to accumulate  assets in a low growth economy without these  

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things happening because the assets have to come  from somewhere and what you see is loss of assets  

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for middle class, loss of assets for government,  growth of debt for the middle class, growth of  

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debt for the government it's important to realise  that when the rich lend poor people money to buy  

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assets essentially what's happening is the rich  are buying the assets through the poor now if I  

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lend you half a million pounds and use that half  million pounds to buy a house you still have to  

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pay me interest every year and it's very similar  to paying rent so the lending really is just  

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the flip side of the rich buying the asset it's  another way for the rich to buy the assets so in  

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both cases the rich are gaining assets the middle  class are losing those assets and over time we  

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lose that property owning middle class and we also  lose that property owning and stable government  

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once this starts going it is essentially  inevitable it will continue right because  

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once the middle class starts  to lose their assets then  

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there are more people who don't own property and  have to rent once they start to fall heavily into  

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debt then they have to pay large amounts of  interest every year this means bigger flows of  

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money from the middle class to the rich which  the rich can then use to buy the rest of the  

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assets which means it starts a spiral which  builds up momentum over time and this is why  

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it is pretty much inevitable that the middle  class will significantly lose their assets over  

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the next 20 30 40 years and of all my economic  predictions I think this is the one that I'm most  

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confident about that we will lose that property  owning middle class over the next 30-40 years  

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um so what does that mean what does that  mean well fortunately if we want to know what  

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economies without property owning middle classes  look like it's really easy to see that because  

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we the world is full of them you can go to Brazil  you can go to South Africa you can go to Russia  

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you can go to India and you can see what economies  look like when you do not have a property owning  

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middle class so for the last 70 years we have had  property owning middle class in Europe in the US  

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and it has led to a situation where we have had  broadly high standard of living not for everyone  

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there has always been poverty but it has been  unusual if we compare to most of history in the  

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percentage of people who live decent quality lives  if you look at countries without those property  

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middle classes what do they look like? they look like small super wealthy elites and very very large  

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essentially very poor people that very often  they're forced to live in very squalid housing  

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on the outskirts of cities they work for very  low wages and that is because when you lose your  

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property owning middle class what you also  lose is your customer base the basis of the  

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wealth of Western economies in the last 70 years  is you have a big middle class you have a lot of  

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customers and what that means is even if you are  not middle class even if you are poor you have  

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a lot of customers so so you can get a decent  wage because there's a lot of people competing  

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for your labour basically but once you lose that  middle class then you move to a situation where  

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workers are also significantly disadvantaged and  I think it's really interesting to go and sort  

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of look at cities like Johannesburg or Sao Paulo  Mumbai and what you see is because there's so few  

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customers the poor are then forced to cluster  into the big cities because it's the only way  

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to get work because that's where the rich people  are essentially and that's the only place you can  

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get your money from and I think it's interesting  that we're kind of seeing slowly slowly at first  

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the same thing happening here in London which  is London is significantly increasing in size  

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is seeing an influx of poor people from  within the country from without the country  

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they're trying to get accommodation in the big  city because it's the only place where they can  

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get a decent job and it's kind of leading to  a slumification of the outskirts of the city  

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you know I grew up in ilford which is one of  the cheapest places to live in London you've  

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seen a massive increase in density you've seen a  massive decrease in the average quality of housing  

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and essentially it's becoming slum and this is  what what happens when you lose your middle class  

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if you don't have a middle class society you  have a rich and poor society and if you don't  

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have a middle class society you don't need middle  class housing what you need is rich housing and  

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poor housing and increasingly that is what we will  see so it will lead to a situation of very small  

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wealthy elite and basically really really broad  poverty and um I don't want that to happen that's  

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why I made this channel um and it will happen, it  will happen for the simple reason that if you take  

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two groups of people a large middle class and and  a small rich elite and you constantly pump wealth  

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from the middle class to the super rich elite  and you don't pump anything back in the other  

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direction it is inevitable that over time this  group will lose their wealth you know if I take  

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if I take two buckets of water and I constantly  pour water from one to the other eventually it  

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will run out of water and this will this will  inevitably happen and you can easily see that  

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when you look at the flows of wealth between  the middle class and the rich, the middle class  

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will eventually disappear and we can see what  that looks like you know it's go and look at  

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what countries are like without middle class  go and look read up on the history of the UK  

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or whatever country you're in what it looked like  in the early 20th century and 19th century before  

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we had a broad property owning middle class  and you'll see is is a is a place of broad poverty  

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and very low living conditions and we can see it  happening in front of our eyes we can see poverty  

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growing we can see living standards falling and  that is inevitably what will happen if you have  

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growing inequality slowly dying middle class  in a situation of no economic growth and the  

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only way to fix that is the pump wealth back in  the other direction and um we've called to it  

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many times on this channel we need high tax  on rich people it's the only way to support the  

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middle class if your wealth is being pumped out of  your communities out of your families towards the  

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very rich nothing is pumped back eventually we'll have  nothing left so please support us in campaigning  

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for higher tax on the rich, because if we don't  do it, it will mean poverty for the rest of us and  

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um yeah it's important so uh yeah tax the rich more & support the channel thanks for your time

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money currently is flowing from the  government to the rich leaving the  

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government with big piles of debt and the  rich with big piles of money, there's 1 other  

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thing they can do with that mass amount  of income they can buy your mum's house