globe over the growing gap between
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states of course but literally around
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consensus emerging at least in some
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some of the wealthiest americans in
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government is currently not paying for
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is that such a good idea joining us is
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us from london
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inequality continuing to get worse
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realize just how much wealth inequality
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has increased in the last two years so
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which is a little bit counterintuitive
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now in many cases that went directly to
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think people might think this would
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perhaps be good for inequality but you
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what's happened during coving so during
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kobe there was a cancellation of a lot
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of spending but not all spending okay if
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you're a poor ordinary person and most
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the other is
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if they don't spend it then it starts to
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essentially the government has taken the
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place of the rich and money which used
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to flow around in a circle has now
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so the end result is four trillion
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dollars accumulating in the bank outs of
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there do not have fifteen thousand
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some rich person has got it
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productivity but because their value of
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very wealthy people who create a very
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because of that productivity listen i've
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i'm the best person to ask okay i've got
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nothing against rich people i've got a
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lot of money and i've made a lot of
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money during coving but the problem is
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if you give the rich people four
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trillion dollars and you know i really
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cannot label enough how much money four
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trillion dollars is like if i was to
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imagine the government that's printed
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four trillion dollars and gave it to
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rich people what would you say would
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happen well if you just said that to me
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i would say well probably it will push
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prices up and it will cause the cost of
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living crisis for the people who didn't
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get the four trillion dollars and you
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know i'm not just saying that now people
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can go and look at the videos i put out
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the government is printing huge amounts
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of money it's going to rich people and
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it's going to cause inequality to rise
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house prices to rise stock prices to
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what happens if the government gives
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people i don't hate them you know what i
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mean i've worked with a lot of them some
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of them are even quite nice if you get
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to know them but the truth is this is
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and it's meaning that ordinary americans
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government have done differently though
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let's help people who are struggling
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have lost their job i mean i suppose it
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could have been some sort of means
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of means testing towards focusing this
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money on people who direly needed it
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listen 100 give the money yeah you have
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to give the money every country in the
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world did that because you have to do it
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but if you are gonna print four trillion
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some back of the packet calculations
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and say look who is going to end up with
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this money where is this 4 trillion is
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trillion without doing some analysis of
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people in the country
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the problem wasn't this wasn't helping
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wasn't accompanied by not only analysis
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of where the money went out but also
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then some means of getting the revenue
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back from the wealthiest people who were
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seeing their wealth grow even more yeah
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i think there just has to be a little
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bit of understanding which is look this
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is an emergency situation we need to
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give money out but it is going to cause
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a transfer of 4 trillion of wealth from
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the government to the richest and that
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you know this analysis should have been
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well the rich are going to get four
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trillion dollars we will need to get
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some of that back otherwise we will
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cause this sort of crisis you know the
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from the us government to the wealthiest
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inequality in the united states you know
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ordinary people and increasing living
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standards for the rich this is not
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rocket science and my biggest concern my
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biggest concern is that right now this
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cost of living crisis gets blamed 100 on
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vladimir putin and russia because i can
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you can see happening in the media now
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this four trillion dollars which is
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still sitting in the bank accounts of
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the richest americans by the way will be
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left there and they will use that to buy
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houses that your kids need to buy stocks
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and shares that you need for your
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we will see an economic disaster and we
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are seeing it one of the efforts to try
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elizabeth warren has proposed a wealth
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tax uh the the rap against that is that
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businessmen and people who aren't so
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wealthy would also be pinched and have
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circulate in the economy thoughts
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yeah look i'm a strong campaigner for
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world tax i've been supporting it for a
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long time and what i always say when
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taxing people with one million dollars
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million dollars okay the average
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billionaire in the us has seen their
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their homes okay
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these guys if you allow these guys to
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take more and more wealth they will use
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that to buy the rest of the homes you
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know i'm not just saying this i've been
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betting on this for 15 years and i've
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made millions of pounds doing it okay if
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and more wealth they will eventually
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take everything and you will see an
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look if you're out there and you're a
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doctor or a lawyer you are not my enemy
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you know what i mean i was a banker
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and i'm willing to pay a bit more but
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the problem here is the super super
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pieces of paper so he wants to put a
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a a transaction tax or a penny per trade
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on wall street with the idea being that
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okay the financial sector in the united
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states you shouldn't be able to make so
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speculation and making bats that there
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should be some sort of tax on that does
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that make sense in your estimation well
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listen i've traded a few pieces of paper
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in my time so i guess some people be
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putting some fingers at me here look
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the most important thing with any tax is
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that it hits the riches it has to hit
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the richest okay look if you if you're
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not going out there and you're getting
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if you're not getting jeff bezos and
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elon musk then you are failing in your
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anticipate to talk about lots of
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potential taxes that we could do the
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most important thing is that you catch
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the richest you have the cat because i
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know people out there will be looking
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we'll be looking at me and saying you're
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going to bring a taxi and the richest
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will avoid it and you're going to hit me
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that's not what i want to do i want to
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bring a tax that is well designed well
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you mentioned and you've been correct on
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a lot of things like inflation on the
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wealth transfer on all the sort of side
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effects housing prices going up uh given
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your track record let's ask you a little
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nothing changes what do you see
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the united states with the economy
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david i'm not going to sugarcoat this
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for you this is going to be a disaster
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this is genuinely going to be a disaster
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families all right winter's going to
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struggling to heat their homes that's
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what's going to happen and then you've
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got another 23 above that that have an
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extra 2 3 000 extra cost of living
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well that's the money they needed to go
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to the shops to go on holiday to go to
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bars to go to the cinema to go to the
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theater right these guys can't go out
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being sucked out of ordinary people's
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and you see inflation continuing at the
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inflation will eventually normalize but
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inflation normalizes that doesn't mean
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prices go back to where they were so we
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higher relative to an ordinary person's
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living will be permanently lower for
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ordinary people and this is exactly what
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largest ever transferred world from
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ordinary people to the rich so ordinary
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people will see the quality of life full
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connection between that wealth transfer
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uh the companies that are responsible
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for for food and grocery prices whether
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it's the grocery stores or the uh the
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the tyson chickens uh that their prices
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seems like within certain sectors in
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listen rich people have much much much
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fifteen thousand dollars per american
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adult has been printed and it's all
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millions of dollars cash more these guys
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are going to buy more stuff and they can
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resources to make themselves richer look
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if you make the rich much much much
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richer then they will take a bigger
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share of the output and of the natural
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gary if you could have a conversation
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with joe biden and top members of
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congress right now what what would you
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solution here assuming that they have
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but it's fixable the money is there that
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while ordinary people are struggling to
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heat their homes and feed their families
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four trillion dollars is there you have
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to access it be careful plan the tax
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that works but you have to tax the
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economic disaster here and finally gary
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being somebody who was essentially an
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advocate for for this kind of work oh
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well i don't have much time but um
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uh yeah i'm from east london near the
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before the financial crisis citibank
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used to hire one trader a year through a
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card game which is basically a matter
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game um i'm good at maths i'm good at
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games i entered that and i won and uh
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yeah i became a trader in them i was
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quite a good one if people want to know
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gary stevenson he's a trader turn
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inequality economist gary good of you to
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