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The Queen & Inequality - Interview with Germany's ZDF

June 12, 2022
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we're off to film with this german tv

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we're off to film with this german tv channel

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[Music] gary<00:00:17.039> let's

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gary let's

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gary let's start<00:00:19.119> off<00:00:19.439> with<00:00:19.680> um<00:00:20.000> the<00:00:20.160> political<00:00:20.720> bits

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start off with um the political bits

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start off with um the political bits that<00:00:21.199> talk<00:00:21.520> there's<00:00:21.760> a<00:00:21.840> lot<00:00:22.000> of<00:00:22.160> talk<00:00:22.720> now<00:00:23.199> and

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that talk there's a lot of talk now and

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that talk there's a lot of talk now and actually<00:00:23.760> informal<00:00:24.080> government's<00:00:24.480> already

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actually informal government's already

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actually informal government's already of<00:00:25.119> leveling<00:00:25.599> up

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of leveling up

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of leveling up yeah<00:00:27.519> yeah<00:00:27.920> what<00:00:28.080> do<00:00:28.160> you<00:00:28.240> think<00:00:28.400> about<00:00:28.840> that

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yeah yeah what do you think about that

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yeah yeah what do you think about that uh<00:00:30.320> it's<00:00:30.480> a<00:00:30.560> great<00:00:30.720> idea<00:00:31.199> it'd<00:00:31.359> be<00:00:31.439> nice<00:00:31.679> if

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uh it's a great idea it'd be nice if

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uh it's a great idea it'd be nice if they<00:00:31.920> did<00:00:32.160> it<00:00:32.719> um<00:00:33.360> leveling<00:00:33.760> up<00:00:33.920> obviously

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they did it um leveling up obviously

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they did it um leveling up obviously it's<00:00:35.760> often<00:00:36.000> not<00:00:36.160> clear<00:00:36.320> what<00:00:36.480> it's<00:00:36.640> meant

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it's often not clear what it's meant

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it's often not clear what it's meant whether<00:00:37.200> it's<00:00:37.360> regional<00:00:37.680> leveling<00:00:38.079> up

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whether it's regional leveling up

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whether it's regional leveling up um<00:00:39.360> for<00:00:39.520> me<00:00:39.600> i'm<00:00:39.760> an<00:00:39.920> equality<00:00:40.239> economist<00:00:40.879> so

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um for me i'm an equality economist so

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um for me i'm an equality economist so what<00:00:41.680> i<00:00:41.760> look<00:00:41.920> at<00:00:42.079> is<00:00:42.160> poverty<00:00:43.120> and<00:00:43.440> if<00:00:43.520> we<00:00:43.680> look

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what i look at is poverty and if we look

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what i look at is poverty and if we look at<00:00:43.840> what's<00:00:44.079> happened<00:00:44.399> between<00:00:44.800> individuals

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at what's happened between individuals

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at what's happened between individuals during<00:00:45.680> the<00:00:45.760> covert<00:00:46.079> crisis<00:00:46.960> it's<00:00:47.120> been<00:00:47.360> the

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during the covert crisis it's been the

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during the covert crisis it's been the biggest<00:00:48.399> ever<00:00:48.800> one<00:00:49.039> year<00:00:49.360> increase<00:00:49.760> in<00:00:49.920> wealth

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biggest ever one year increase in wealth

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biggest ever one year increase in wealth for<00:00:50.559> the<00:00:50.719> rich<00:00:50.879> and<00:00:50.960> the<00:00:51.039> super<00:00:51.360> rich<00:00:51.920> the

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for the rich and the super rich the

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for the rich and the super rich the average<00:00:52.559> british<00:00:52.800> billionaire<00:00:53.360> increased

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average british billionaire increased

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average british billionaire increased their<00:00:53.760> wealth<00:00:54.000> by<00:00:54.199> 630<00:00:55.199> million<00:00:55.600> pounds<00:00:56.000> in

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their wealth by 630 million pounds in

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their wealth by 630 million pounds in the<00:00:56.160> first<00:00:56.320> year<00:00:56.399> of<00:00:56.559> covid<00:00:57.120> which<00:00:57.360> is<00:00:57.520> amazing

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the first year of covid which is amazing

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the first year of covid which is amazing and<00:00:58.800> yet<00:00:59.039> now<00:00:59.440> we're<00:00:59.680> seeing

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and yet now we're seeing

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and yet now we're seeing ordinary<00:01:01.120> families<00:01:01.520> especially<00:01:01.920> poor

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ordinary families especially poor

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ordinary families especially poor families<00:01:02.960> basically<00:01:03.359> struggling<00:01:03.760> to<00:01:03.920> just

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families basically struggling to just

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families basically struggling to just pay<00:01:04.239> the<00:01:04.320> bills<00:01:04.879> so

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pay the bills so

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pay the bills so in<00:01:05.920> the<00:01:06.000> last

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in the last

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in the last two<00:01:07.040> and<00:01:07.200> a<00:01:07.200> half<00:01:07.360> years<00:01:07.680> of<00:01:07.760> this<00:01:07.920> leveling<00:01:08.240> up

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two and a half years of this leveling up

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two and a half years of this leveling up government<00:01:08.880> we've<00:01:09.200> seen<00:01:09.520> the<00:01:09.680> poor<00:01:10.000> driven

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government we've seen the poor driven

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government we've seen the poor driven further<00:01:11.280> into<00:01:11.520> poverty<00:01:12.320> and<00:01:12.479> the<00:01:12.640> rich<00:01:13.360> seeing

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further into poverty and the rich seeing

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further into poverty and the rich seeing the<00:01:13.680> wealth<00:01:13.840> exploding<00:01:14.479> so<00:01:14.880> for<00:01:15.040> me

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the wealth exploding so for me

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the wealth exploding so for me leveling<00:01:16.159> up<00:01:16.240> would<00:01:16.320> be<00:01:16.479> great<00:01:17.040> but<00:01:17.200> if<00:01:17.360> you

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leveling up would be great but if you

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leveling up would be great but if you look<00:01:17.520> at<00:01:17.600> what<00:01:17.680> they're<00:01:17.840> actually<00:01:18.080> doing

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look at what they're actually doing

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look at what they're actually doing it's<00:01:19.119> not<00:01:19.280> happening

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it's not happening

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it's not happening how<00:01:20.640> is<00:01:20.799> that<00:01:21.040> working<00:01:21.600> why<00:01:21.920> does<00:01:22.159> it<00:01:22.400> happen

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how is that working why does it happen

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how is that working why does it happen that<00:01:22.960> you<00:01:23.280> pour<00:01:23.600> money<00:01:24.080> into

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that you pour money into

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that you pour money into cause

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cause poor<00:01:26.159> people<00:01:26.560> pockets<00:01:27.040> by<00:01:27.600> spending<00:01:28.000> i<00:01:28.080> don't

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poor people pockets by spending i don't

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poor people pockets by spending i don't know<00:01:28.400> 400<00:01:28.799> billion<00:01:29.200> for<00:01:29.360> what<00:01:29.759> rishi<00:01:30.079> soon

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know 400 billion for what rishi soon

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know 400 billion for what rishi soon after<00:01:30.960> and<00:01:31.119> it<00:01:31.280> all

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after and it all

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after and it all trickles<00:01:32.560> up<00:01:32.880> i'm<00:01:33.040> not<00:01:33.280> down

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trickles up i'm not down

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trickles up i'm not down yes<00:01:34.320> that<00:01:34.479> is<00:01:34.640> excellent<00:01:34.960> question<00:01:35.520> um<00:01:36.240> as<00:01:36.400> you

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yes that is excellent question um as you

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yes that is excellent question um as you make<00:01:37.280> clear<00:01:37.680> the<00:01:37.759> government<00:01:38.079> printed<00:01:38.479> the

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make clear the government printed the

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make clear the government printed the british<00:01:38.880> government<00:01:39.119> printed<00:01:39.360> 450<00:01:39.920> billion

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british government printed 450 billion

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british government printed 450 billion pounds<00:01:40.640> during<00:01:40.880> kovid<00:01:41.520> that's<00:01:41.840> ten<00:01:42.000> thousand

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pounds during kovid that's ten thousand

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pounds during kovid that's ten thousand pounds<00:01:42.640> per<00:01:42.880> adult

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pounds per adult

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pounds per adult and<00:01:44.159> most<00:01:44.399> of<00:01:44.479> that<00:01:44.560> money<00:01:44.799> was<00:01:44.960> actually

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and most of that money was actually

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and most of that money was actually given<00:01:46.000> to<00:01:46.320> people<00:01:46.640> who<00:01:46.960> were<00:01:47.119> in<00:01:47.280> quite

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given to people who were in quite

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given to people who were in quite desperate<00:01:47.759> need<00:01:48.000> people<00:01:48.159> who<00:01:48.240> for<00:01:48.320> example

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desperate need people who for example

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desperate need people who for example had<00:01:48.720> lost<00:01:48.880> their<00:01:49.040> jobs<00:01:49.600> so<00:01:49.759> how<00:01:50.000> is<00:01:50.159> it<00:01:50.240> that<00:01:50.399> it

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had lost their jobs so how is it that it

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had lost their jobs so how is it that it ends<00:01:50.720> up<00:01:50.960> with<00:01:51.360> the<00:01:51.520> richest<00:01:51.920> people<00:01:52.640> at<00:01:52.799> the

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ends up with the richest people at the

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ends up with the richest people at the beginning<00:01:53.200> of<00:01:53.360> kobe<00:01:53.680> i<00:01:53.759> spent<00:01:54.000> a<00:01:54.000> lot<00:01:54.159> of<00:01:54.240> time

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beginning of kobe i spent a lot of time

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beginning of kobe i spent a lot of time basically<00:01:54.799> thinking<00:01:55.119> about<00:01:55.280> this<00:01:55.520> because<00:01:55.680> i

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basically thinking about this because i

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basically thinking about this because i knew<00:01:56.000> extra<00:01:56.240> money<00:01:56.479> was<00:01:56.640> going<00:01:56.880> in<00:01:57.439> and<00:01:57.600> i<00:01:57.680> knew

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knew extra money was going in and i knew

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knew extra money was going in and i knew it<00:01:57.840> was<00:01:58.000> going<00:01:58.240> largely<00:01:58.560> to<00:01:58.719> furloughed

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it was going largely to furloughed

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it was going largely to furloughed workers<00:01:59.759> but<00:02:00.000> i<00:02:00.079> also<00:02:00.399> knew<00:02:00.560> that<00:02:00.640> furloughed

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workers but i also knew that furloughed

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workers but i also knew that furloughed workers<00:02:01.360> were<00:02:01.520> ending<00:02:01.759> up<00:02:02.079> poorer<00:02:02.719> than<00:02:02.880> they

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workers were ending up poorer than they

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workers were ending up poorer than they were<00:02:03.200> pre-covered<00:02:04.079> so<00:02:04.240> this<00:02:04.399> money's<00:02:04.719> being

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were pre-covered so this money's being

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were pre-covered so this money's being poured<00:02:05.200> in<00:02:05.680> it's<00:02:05.920> going<00:02:06.159> directly<00:02:06.479> to<00:02:06.560> the

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poured in it's going directly to the

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poured in it's going directly to the photos<00:02:07.040> workers<00:02:07.600> but<00:02:07.759> they<00:02:07.920> are<00:02:08.000> not<00:02:08.160> keeping

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photos workers but they are not keeping

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photos workers but they are not keeping the<00:02:08.560> money<00:02:09.200> because<00:02:09.440> they've<00:02:09.679> lost<00:02:09.920> their

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the money because they've lost their

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the money because they've lost their incomes<00:02:11.039> so<00:02:11.200> you<00:02:11.280> have<00:02:11.440> to<00:02:11.520> follow<00:02:11.760> the<00:02:11.840> money

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incomes so you have to follow the money

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incomes so you have to follow the money through<00:02:12.319> right<00:02:12.480> where<00:02:12.720> is<00:02:12.879> the<00:02:13.200> incomes<00:02:13.599> of

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through right where is the incomes of

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through right where is the incomes of the<00:02:13.760> workers<00:02:14.160> gone<00:02:14.480> well<00:02:14.640> they're<00:02:14.720> not

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the workers gone well they're not

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the workers gone well they're not getting<00:02:15.040> paid<00:02:15.200> their<00:02:15.440> wages<00:02:15.840> anymore<00:02:16.319> so

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getting paid their wages anymore so

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getting paid their wages anymore so we're<00:02:16.640> going<00:02:16.800> back<00:02:16.959> to<00:02:17.040> the<00:02:17.120> companies<00:02:17.599> are

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we're going back to the companies are

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we're going back to the companies are the<00:02:17.840> companies<00:02:18.160> holding<00:02:18.400> the<00:02:18.480> money<00:02:18.959> well

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the companies holding the money well

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the companies holding the money well actually<00:02:19.440> the<00:02:19.520> companies<00:02:19.920> are<00:02:20.000> not<00:02:20.160> because

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actually the companies are not because

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actually the companies are not because they've<00:02:20.560> lost<00:02:20.800> their<00:02:21.040> customers<00:02:21.920> so<00:02:22.080> if<00:02:22.160> you

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they've lost their customers so if you

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they've lost their customers so if you go<00:02:22.400> back<00:02:22.560> to<00:02:22.640> the<00:02:22.800> customers<00:02:23.599> we<00:02:23.760> actually<00:02:24.000> see

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go back to the customers we actually see

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go back to the customers we actually see it's<00:02:24.480> customers<00:02:25.280> who<00:02:25.520> accumulated<00:02:25.920> a<00:02:26.000> huge

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it's customers who accumulated a huge

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it's customers who accumulated a huge amount<00:02:26.319> of<00:02:26.400> money<00:02:26.560> during<00:02:26.800> covid<00:02:27.680> and<00:02:27.920> people

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amount of money during covid and people

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amount of money during covid and people watching<00:02:28.480> this<00:02:28.720> might<00:02:28.879> be<00:02:29.040> thinking<00:02:29.360> well<00:02:29.920> i'm

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watching this might be thinking well i'm

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watching this might be thinking well i'm a<00:02:30.160> customer<00:02:30.879> i<00:02:31.040> haven't<00:02:31.200> accumulated<00:02:31.599> 10<00:02:31.840> 000

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a customer i haven't accumulated 10 000

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a customer i haven't accumulated 10 000 pounds<00:02:32.720> and<00:02:32.800> the<00:02:32.959> reason<00:02:33.280> for<00:02:33.440> that<00:02:33.599> is

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pounds and the reason for that is

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pounds and the reason for that is it's<00:02:34.640> only<00:02:34.879> customers<00:02:35.280> who<00:02:35.360> had<00:02:35.599> very<00:02:36.080> large

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it's only customers who had very large

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it's only customers who had very large luxury<00:02:36.879> and<00:02:36.959> non-essential<00:02:37.519> spending<00:02:38.400> if

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luxury and non-essential spending if

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luxury and non-essential spending if you're<00:02:38.720> spending<00:02:39.280> like<00:02:39.519> most<00:02:39.760> people<00:02:40.000> is

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you're spending like most people is

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you're spending like most people is large<00:02:40.400> on<00:02:40.560> essentials<00:02:41.120> like<00:02:41.519> rent<00:02:41.920> mortgage

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large on essentials like rent mortgage

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large on essentials like rent mortgage food<00:02:42.640> bills<00:02:43.200> you<00:02:43.440> still<00:02:43.680> had<00:02:43.840> those

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food bills you still had those

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food bills you still had those expenditures<00:02:45.040> but<00:02:45.200> if<00:02:45.360> your<00:02:45.680> expenditures

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expenditures but if your expenditures

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expenditures but if your expenditures are<00:02:46.480> largely<00:02:46.879> luxuries<00:02:47.280> and<00:02:47.360> on<00:02:47.519> essentials

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are largely luxuries and on essentials

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are largely luxuries and on essentials you<00:02:48.239> couldn't<00:02:48.560> buy<00:02:48.720> those<00:02:48.879> things<00:02:49.040> anymore

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you couldn't buy those things anymore

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you couldn't buy those things anymore during<00:02:49.599> kobe<00:02:50.239> so<00:02:50.400> what<00:02:50.640> happened<00:02:50.959> was<00:02:51.200> the

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during kobe so what happened was the

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during kobe so what happened was the rich<00:02:51.599> and<00:02:51.680> the<00:02:51.760> super<00:02:52.000> rich<00:02:52.319> stopped<00:02:52.640> spending

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rich and the super rich stopped spending

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rich and the super rich stopped spending and<00:02:53.599> the<00:02:53.680> consequence<00:02:54.319> was<00:02:55.040> ordinary

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and the consequence was ordinary

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and the consequence was ordinary families<00:02:56.239> stopped<00:02:56.480> being<00:02:56.640> able<00:02:56.800> to<00:02:56.879> pay<00:02:57.040> their

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families stopped being able to pay their

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families stopped being able to pay their bills<00:02:57.760> so<00:02:57.920> the<00:02:58.000> money<00:02:58.319> went<00:02:58.560> in<00:02:59.040> to<00:02:59.200> the<00:02:59.360> poor

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bills so the money went in to the poor

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bills so the money went in to the poor but<00:02:59.920> straight<00:03:00.239> away<00:03:00.480> went<00:03:00.720> back<00:03:00.879> up<00:03:01.040> to<00:03:01.120> the

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but straight away went back up to the

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but straight away went back up to the rich<00:03:01.440> who<00:03:01.519> accumulated<00:03:02.080> it<00:03:02.400> so<00:03:02.720> you<00:03:02.800> could

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rich who accumulated it so you could

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rich who accumulated it so you could actually<00:03:03.280> predict<00:03:03.599> this<00:03:03.680> right<00:03:03.840> at<00:03:03.920> the

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actually predict this right at the

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actually predict this right at the beginning<00:03:04.239> of<00:03:04.400> codeword<00:03:04.879> that<00:03:05.040> there<00:03:05.120> would

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beginning of codeword that there would

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beginning of codeword that there would be<00:03:05.360> an<00:03:05.519> enormous<00:03:06.080> increase<00:03:06.879> in<00:03:07.040> cash

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be an enormous increase in cash

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be an enormous increase in cash accumulated<00:03:07.760> by<00:03:07.920> richer<00:03:08.239> people<00:03:08.560> during

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accumulated by richer people during

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covid and if you look at my videos and

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covid and if you look at my videos and articles<00:03:11.280> at<00:03:11.360> the<00:03:11.440> beginning<00:03:11.680> of<00:03:11.760> coverage

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articles at the beginning of coverage

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you'll see that i did predict it and it

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is exactly what's happened i'm we're

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seeing the predictable consequences now

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inflation house prices rising stock

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happened in the last two years but even

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happened in the last two years but even before<00:03:23.599> that<00:03:24.159> um

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before that um

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britain seems such an in equal unequal

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britain seems such an in equal unequal society

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how did that happen over the years what

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general thing apart from capitalism

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if you look into the history of it you

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know if you're interested in the history

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you know it's actually worth reading

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you know it's actually worth reading piketty<00:03:43.360> the<00:03:43.440> french<00:03:43.680> economist<00:03:44.159> book

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capital at least the first couple of

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chapters because he really looks into

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the history of it you know the history

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the history of it you know the history of<00:03:49.360> inequality<00:03:49.840> in<00:03:49.920> this<00:03:50.000> country<00:03:50.400> it<00:03:50.480> was

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of inequality in this country it was

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of inequality in this country it was very<00:03:50.959> very<00:03:51.200> high<00:03:51.840> in<00:03:52.000> the<00:03:52.080> pre-war<00:03:52.480> period

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very very high in the pre-war period

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very very high in the pre-war period then<00:03:53.360> after<00:03:53.519> the<00:03:53.599> second<00:03:53.840> world<00:03:54.000> war<00:03:54.239> it

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then after the second world war it

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then after the second world war it became<00:03:54.640> much<00:03:54.799> much<00:03:55.040> lower<00:03:55.360> that<00:03:55.519> was<00:03:55.599> a<00:03:55.680> period

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became much much lower that was a period

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became much much lower that was a period of<00:03:56.159> very<00:03:56.400> high<00:03:56.560> taxation<00:03:57.120> you<00:03:57.200> know<00:03:57.599> famously

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of very high taxation you know famously

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the beatles paid 95 percent taxation on

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their income you know 19 for him and one

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their income you know 19 for him and one for<00:04:02.319> me

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um but in the 80s taxation of the riches

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um but in the 80s taxation of the riches was<00:04:05.840> decreased<00:04:06.159> massively<00:04:06.799> now<00:04:07.360> if<00:04:07.519> you<00:04:07.599> don't

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was decreased massively now if you don't

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was decreased massively now if you don't tax<00:04:08.080> rich<00:04:08.319> people<00:04:09.120> i<00:04:09.200> think<00:04:09.360> it's<00:04:09.439> important

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tax rich people i think it's important

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to realize that rich people generate

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huge amounts of income from their wealth

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so if you have a wealth of 200 billion

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so if you have a wealth of 200 billion pounds<00:04:15.519> like<00:04:15.680> 200<00:04:16.079> million<00:04:16.479> pounds<00:04:16.720> like<00:04:16.880> our

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pounds like 200 million pounds like our

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pounds like 200 million pounds like our chancellor<00:04:17.759> you<00:04:17.919> will<00:04:18.000> get<00:04:18.160> six<00:04:18.320> million

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chancellor you will get six million

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chancellor you will get six million pounds<00:04:18.880> a<00:04:18.959> year<00:04:19.120> just<00:04:19.280> for<00:04:19.440> getting<00:04:19.600> out<00:04:19.759> of

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pounds a year just for getting out of

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bed you know so if the rich

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don't pay taxes then naturally their

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wealth will swell and they will take the

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wealth will swell and they will take the wealth<00:04:26.080> of<00:04:26.320> ordinary<00:04:26.720> families<00:04:27.199> i<00:04:27.280> think<00:04:27.440> this

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wealth of ordinary families i think this

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wealth of ordinary families i think this is

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this is the natural way of things if you

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don't tax rich people rich people are

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rich as a result they have huge incomes

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and they can buy the assets

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that has been support the centuries

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that has been support the centuries obviously

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do you feel there is a

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i think it really depends you ask i

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think actually there's actually been a

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kind of interesting change in tone of

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this because i've been campaigning for

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this because i've been campaigning for greater<00:04:54.880> taxation<00:04:55.280> of<00:04:55.360> the<00:04:55.440> richest<00:04:55.680> for<00:04:55.840> a

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greater taxation of the richest for a

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while now and i was talking about it 10

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while now and i was talking about it 10 years<00:04:58.320> ago<00:04:58.479> when<00:04:58.560> i<00:04:58.639> was<00:04:58.720> a<00:04:58.800> trader<00:04:59.520> and<00:04:59.680> back

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years ago when i was a trader and back

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years ago when i was a trader and back then<00:05:00.160> people<00:05:00.400> would<00:05:00.560> say<00:05:00.800> you<00:05:00.880> can't<00:05:01.120> tax<00:05:01.360> the

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then people would say you can't tax the

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rich because it's bad for the economy

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and i think increasingly that kind of

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manner of thinking has become less and

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less popular i think increasingly people

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can see that the last 10 15 years have

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not worked for the economy or for

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ordinary people so people are accepting

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what's happening now is not working

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economically but now when i say you need

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economically but now when i say you need to<00:05:19.919> tax<00:05:20.080> the<00:05:20.160> rich<00:05:20.320> people<00:05:20.560> what<00:05:20.720> comes<00:05:20.960> back

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to tax the rich people what comes back

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is well you can't they'll leave so i

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actually think what you've seen is

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the rich have kind of lost the battle on

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it's a moral good for us to be rich and

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now they're saying well it doesn't

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matter because you can't stop us

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matter because you can't stop us so

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that's not the most positive response

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that's not the most positive response but<00:05:35.360> i<00:05:35.440> think<00:05:35.600> it<00:05:35.759> shows<00:05:36.639> more<00:05:36.880> and<00:05:36.960> more

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but i think it shows more and more

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but i think it shows more and more ordinary<00:05:37.600> people<00:05:38.000> are<00:05:38.160> accepting<00:05:38.560> that<00:05:38.720> the

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ordinary people are accepting that the

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ordinary people are accepting that the levels<00:05:39.039> of<00:05:39.120> inequality<00:05:39.600> now<00:05:39.840> are<00:05:40.000> way<00:05:40.160> too

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levels of inequality now are way too

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much and they're not working

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um well actually it's a bit of a side

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um well actually it's a bit of a side question<00:05:45.440> but<00:05:45.600> i<00:05:45.759> ask<00:05:46.000> it<00:05:46.080> nevertheless<00:05:46.639> we're

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question but i ask it nevertheless we're

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question but i ask it nevertheless we're doing<00:05:47.280> this<00:05:47.520> also<00:05:48.160> because<00:05:48.479> there's<00:05:48.880> a<00:05:48.960> lot<00:05:49.199> of

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doing this also because there's a lot of

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doing this also because there's a lot of excitement<00:05:50.000> in<00:05:50.560> here<00:05:50.960> but<00:05:51.120> also<00:05:51.440> in<00:05:51.520> germany

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excitement in here but also in germany

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excitement in here but also in germany about<00:05:52.160> the<00:05:52.320> jubilee<00:05:52.800> of<00:05:52.880> the<00:05:53.039> queen

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about the jubilee of the queen

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yeah and um we thought well it's nice to

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yeah and um we thought well it's nice to do<00:05:57.199> something<00:05:57.440> about<00:05:57.759> sweden<00:05:58.160> you'd<00:05:58.319> rather

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do something about sweden you'd rather

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the uk economic state how is it going

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for people 70 years after she came to

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for people 70 years after she came to throw<00:06:06.080> well<00:06:06.400> you<00:06:06.560> know

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throw well you know

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yeah i've never met the queen i'm sure

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she's a lovely lovely lady and i hope

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she's recovering from her covid very

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you know she resided over a period of

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you know she resided over a period of actually<00:06:16.000> phenomenal<00:06:16.479> economic<00:06:16.800> strength<00:06:17.039> in

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actually phenomenal economic strength in

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this country if you look at back 50s 60s

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this country if you look at back 50s 60s 70s<00:06:19.440> you<00:06:19.520> know<00:06:19.680> my<00:06:19.840> dad<00:06:20.000> worked<00:06:20.240> for<00:06:20.319> the<00:06:20.400> post

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70s you know my dad worked for the post

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office for 25 years i think 35 years in

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office for 25 years i think 35 years in fact<00:06:24.000> he<00:06:24.160> never<00:06:24.319> earned<00:06:24.560> a<00:06:24.560> lot<00:06:24.639> of<00:06:24.720> money<00:06:24.960> but

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fact he never earned a lot of money but

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fact he never earned a lot of money but he<00:06:25.199> was<00:06:25.360> able<00:06:25.520> to<00:06:26.080> buy<00:06:26.240> a<00:06:26.400> house<00:06:26.880> support<00:06:27.280> three

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he was able to buy a house support three

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he was able to buy a house support three kids<00:06:27.919> you<00:06:28.080> know<00:06:28.160> and<00:06:28.240> now<00:06:28.479> he's<00:06:28.639> retired

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kids you know and now he's retired

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kids you know and now he's retired you<00:06:30.160> know<00:06:30.400> not<00:06:30.560> too<00:06:30.720> long<00:06:30.880> ago<00:06:31.120> that<00:06:31.199> was

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you know not too long ago that was

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possible in this country

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but now you have people working that

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but now you have people working that kind<00:06:34.400> of<00:06:34.560> job<00:06:34.800> who<00:06:35.039> are<00:06:35.120> literally<00:06:35.440> homeless

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kind of job who are literally homeless

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because they can't afford to pay the

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because they can't afford to pay the rent

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during the period the queen has been the

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queen we've seen some really amazing

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queen we've seen some really amazing economic<00:06:42.720> times<00:06:43.199> you<00:06:43.280> know<00:06:43.600> where<00:06:44.160> ordinary

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economic times you know where ordinary

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live good lives working ordinary jobs

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but unfortunately we're losing that now

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but unfortunately we're losing that now and<00:06:50.080> increasingly<00:06:50.720> ordinary<00:06:51.120> people<00:06:51.280> earning

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and increasingly ordinary people earning

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ordinary jobs can't afford to own

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property or even get financial security

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property or even get financial security you<00:06:55.520> know<00:06:55.840> i<00:06:56.000> get<00:06:56.160> message<00:06:56.560> all<00:06:56.720> the<00:06:56.880> time<00:06:57.120> from

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you know i get message all the time from

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you know i get message all the time from young<00:06:57.840> people<00:06:58.160> who<00:06:58.319> are<00:06:58.560> smart<00:06:59.199> ambitious

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young people who are smart ambitious

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young people who are smart ambitious doing<00:06:59.919> everything<00:07:00.240> right<00:07:00.720> going<00:07:01.039> to<00:07:01.120> the

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doing everything right going to the

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right uni studying hard and they can't

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right uni studying hard and they can't afford<00:07:03.440> to<00:07:03.599> buy<00:07:03.759> a<00:07:03.759> house<00:07:04.000> they<00:07:04.160> can't<00:07:04.319> afford

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afford to buy a house they can't afford

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to become financially secure so um

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to become financially secure so um you<00:07:06.720> know<00:07:06.800> i<00:07:06.880> wouldn't<00:07:07.039> like<00:07:07.199> to<00:07:07.280> point<00:07:07.360> their

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you know i wouldn't like to point their

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finger at the queen directly but yeah

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finger at the queen directly but yeah we've<00:07:09.199> lost<00:07:09.520> a<00:07:09.599> lot

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we've lost a lot

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my question would be is there not kind

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my question would be is there not kind of<00:07:13.360> baked<00:07:13.840> in<00:07:14.319> inequality<00:07:15.280> in<00:07:15.440> this<00:07:15.599> country

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of baked in inequality in this country

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of baked in inequality in this country because<00:07:16.400> you<00:07:16.560> have<00:07:16.720> a<00:07:16.880> monarch<00:07:17.759> i<00:07:17.840> mean<00:07:18.080> people

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because you have a monarch i mean people

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something special and rich and

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listen every country has inequality

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but that level of inequality changes you

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but that level of inequality changes you know<00:07:30.319> what<00:07:30.479> i<00:07:30.560> campaigned<00:07:30.880> for<00:07:31.120> inequality

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know what i campaigned for inequality

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and sometimes people turn around to me

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and say you're never going to get

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perfect equality and i say look

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perfect equality and i say look that<00:07:36.960> may<00:07:37.199> or<00:07:37.280> may<00:07:37.440> not<00:07:37.599> be<00:07:37.680> true<00:07:38.080> but<00:07:38.560> you<00:07:38.720> can

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that may or may not be true but you can

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that may or may not be true but you can stop<00:07:39.199> inequality<00:07:39.680> from<00:07:39.840> killing<00:07:40.160> your

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stop inequality from killing your

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economy you know 50 years ago inequality

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economy you know 50 years ago inequality was<00:07:42.479> much<00:07:42.720> less<00:07:42.960> than<00:07:43.199> it<00:07:43.280> is<00:07:43.440> now<00:07:44.160> and

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was much less than it is now and

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was much less than it is now and inequality<00:07:45.039> in<00:07:45.120> the<00:07:45.199> last<00:07:45.360> 20<00:07:45.599> years<00:07:45.759> has

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inequality in the last 20 years has

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increased significantly so

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i don't like this fatalistic attitude

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that you will always have inequality

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it is true you always have inequality

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but if you allow it to destroy your

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but if you allow it to destroy your economy<00:07:56.560> your<00:07:56.639> economy<00:07:56.960> will<00:07:57.039> still<00:07:57.199> be

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economy your economy will still be

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destroyed you know what i mean we still

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destroyed you know what i mean we still need<00:07:59.360> to<00:07:59.440> manage<00:07:59.759> this<00:08:00.240> and<00:08:00.479> it's<00:08:00.720> growing<00:08:01.039> and

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need to manage this and it's growing and

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need to manage this and it's growing and growing<00:08:01.440> you<00:08:01.520> know<00:08:01.759> i've<00:08:01.919> been<00:08:02.080> analyzing<00:08:02.400> the

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growing you know i've been analyzing the

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economy for 10 15 years now and i've

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economy for 10 15 years now and i've been<00:08:04.479> betting<00:08:04.720> on<00:08:04.800> disaster<00:08:05.520> because<00:08:05.759> of

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been betting on disaster because of

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inequality and i keep being right and i

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inequality and i keep being right and i don't<00:08:07.280> want<00:08:07.440> to<00:08:07.520> be<00:08:07.680> right<00:08:08.000> you<00:08:08.080> know

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don't want to be right you know

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you know your car will never be perfect

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but you know if part of it is broken you

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still need to fix it and the economy is

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the same you know we will never have a

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the same you know we will never have a perfect<00:08:15.360> economy<00:08:15.599> but<00:08:15.759> we<00:08:15.840> can<00:08:15.919> have<00:08:16.000> a<00:08:16.080> much

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perfect economy but we can have a much

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perfect economy but we can have a much better<00:08:16.400> one<00:08:16.560> than<00:08:16.639> we<00:08:16.720> have<00:08:16.879> now

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better one than we have now

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what was your motivation to be become a

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what was your motivation to be become a trader

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i was poor and i wanted to be rich you

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i was poor and i wanted to be rich you know<00:08:22.960> i<00:08:23.120> come<00:08:23.280> from<00:08:23.360> a<00:08:23.440> very<00:08:23.599> poor<00:08:23.840> family<00:08:24.240> you

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know i come from a very poor family you

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i help my brother get a house i help my

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sister get a house you know i take care

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sister get a house you know i take care of<00:08:28.879> my<00:08:28.960> parents

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of my parents

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you know i was poor i know it's like to

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you know i was poor i know it's like to be<00:08:32.240> poor<00:08:32.479> when<00:08:32.640> you're<00:08:32.800> poor<00:08:33.200> ain't<00:08:33.360> no<00:08:33.519> one

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be poor when you're poor ain't no one

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going to come out and make you not poor

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that's what i wanted to do and that's

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that's what i wanted to do and that's what<00:08:37.120> i<00:08:37.200> did

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and once you have the feeling okay now i

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and once you have the feeling okay now i can<00:08:40.800> do<00:08:40.959> this<00:08:41.680> that<00:08:41.839> was<00:08:42.080> it

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can do this that was it

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yeah i mean i was always like

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yeah i mean i was always like smart

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good at maths at school you know i just

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thought why not me you know i went to a

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thought why not me you know i went to a good<00:08:50.800> universe<00:08:51.200> you<00:08:51.279> know<00:08:51.440> i<00:08:51.440> was<00:08:51.519> one<00:08:51.600> of<00:08:51.680> the

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good universe you know i was one of the

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good universe you know i was one of the top<00:08:52.000> students<00:08:52.560> and

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top students and

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top students and yeah<00:08:53.839> i<00:08:53.920> thought<00:08:54.080> i<00:08:54.160> could<00:08:54.240> do<00:08:54.399> it<00:08:54.480> when<00:08:54.640> i<00:08:54.720> went

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yeah i thought i could do it when i went

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into the city and i realized the truth

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into the city and i realized the truth is<00:08:56.560> it's

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is it's

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there are some smart people there but

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there are some smart people there but it's<00:08:58.480> not<00:08:58.560> full<00:08:58.720> of<00:08:58.800> geniuses<00:08:59.760> yeah<00:09:00.080> you<00:09:00.160> know

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it's not full of geniuses yeah you know

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it's not full of geniuses yeah you know i'm<00:09:00.640> as<00:09:00.720> good<00:09:00.880> as<00:09:00.959> anyone<00:09:01.440> why<00:09:01.680> can't<00:09:01.839> i<00:09:02.000> be<00:09:02.080> the

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i'm as good as anyone why can't i be the

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i'm as good as anyone why can't i be the top<00:09:02.320> trade<00:09:02.480> in<00:09:02.560> the<00:09:02.640> city<00:09:02.880> and<00:09:03.200> i<00:09:03.279> was

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top trade in the city and i was

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top trade in the city and i was you<00:09:05.519> could<00:09:05.680> have<00:09:05.760> gone<00:09:06.080> on<00:09:06.320> made<00:09:06.560> loads<00:09:06.800> of

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you could have gone on made loads of

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you could have gone on made loads of money<00:09:07.279> and<00:09:07.519> spread<00:09:08.000> it<00:09:08.080> around

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money and spread it around

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money and spread it around yeah<00:09:09.519> but<00:09:09.680> you<00:09:09.839> know<00:09:10.160> i<00:09:10.320> literally<00:09:10.640> made<00:09:10.880> money

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yeah but you know i literally made money

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yeah but you know i literally made money by<00:09:11.279> betting<00:09:11.600> on<00:09:12.000> economic<00:09:12.399> disaster<00:09:13.120> you<00:09:13.279> know

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by betting on economic disaster you know

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and that's that's not a ideological

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thing my job was to analyze the economy

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thing my job was to analyze the economy i<00:09:17.279> analyzed<00:09:17.600> the<00:09:17.680> economy<00:09:18.320> my<00:09:18.480> conclusion<00:09:18.959> was

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i analyzed the economy my conclusion was

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we have a serious structural problem of

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inequality it's not being dealt with

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inequality it's not being dealt with it's<00:09:23.120> not<00:09:23.200> going<00:09:23.360> to<00:09:23.440> be<00:09:23.519> dealt<00:09:23.760> with<00:09:24.240> we<00:09:24.399> will

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it's not going to be dealt with we will

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have a disaster i bet on that and then

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have a disaster i bet on that and then by<00:09:26.959> the<00:09:27.040> end<00:09:27.200> of<00:09:27.279> that<00:09:27.360> year<00:09:27.519> i<00:09:27.600> was<00:09:28.080> the<00:09:28.240> top

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by the end of that year i was the top

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trade in the world for one of the

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world's biggest banks you know

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you don't need to be mahatma gandhi to

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say something should be done here you

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know what i mean if your job is to

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know what i mean if your job is to analyze<00:09:37.360> fire<00:09:37.600> security<00:09:38.320> and<00:09:38.480> the<00:09:38.560> result<00:09:38.880> is

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analyze fire security and the result is

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analyze fire security and the result is the<00:09:39.040> whole<00:09:39.200> city<00:09:39.440> is<00:09:39.519> going<00:09:39.600> to<00:09:39.680> burn<00:09:39.920> down

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the whole city is going to burn down

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the whole city is going to burn down what<00:09:40.480> are<00:09:40.560> you<00:09:40.640> going<00:09:40.720> to<00:09:40.800> do<00:09:41.279> you're<00:09:41.440> not<00:09:41.600> just

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what are you going to do you're not just

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what are you going to do you're not just going<00:09:41.839> to<00:09:41.920> bet<00:09:42.080> on<00:09:42.240> it<00:09:42.320> you're<00:09:42.399> going<00:09:42.480> to<00:09:42.560> try

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going to bet on it you're going to try

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and tell people you know um

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and tell people you know um look<00:09:45.920> i'm<00:09:46.160> a<00:09:46.240> very<00:09:46.399> good<00:09:46.560> economist<00:09:47.040> i've<00:09:47.200> been

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look i'm a very good economist i've been

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look i'm a very good economist i've been paid<00:09:47.519> very<00:09:47.680> very<00:09:47.839> well<00:09:48.080> because<00:09:48.240> i<00:09:48.320> understand

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paid very very well because i understand

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what's happening i think we have a

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problem which is very serious and

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problem which is very serious and getting<00:09:52.160> worse<00:09:52.480> but<00:09:52.640> it's<00:09:52.720> fixable<00:09:53.600> and<00:09:53.760> i

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getting worse but it's fixable and i

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getting worse but it's fixable and i want<00:09:54.000> us<00:09:54.160> to<00:09:54.240> fix<00:09:54.480> it<00:09:54.720> because<00:09:55.040> i<00:09:55.120> don't<00:09:55.279> want

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want us to fix it because i don't want

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the world to be terrible it's not

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the world to be terrible it's not complicated

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have you been approached by the labour

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have you been approached by the labour party

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um i don't want to name individual names

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but i have spoken some labor mps um

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but i have spoken some labor mps um there's<00:10:08.000> a<00:10:08.079> reshuffle<00:10:08.560> recently<00:10:08.880> they

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there's a reshuffle recently they

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haven't spoken to me since um but i'm

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haven't spoken to me since um but i'm here<00:10:11.839> you<00:10:11.920> know<00:10:12.160> and<00:10:12.399> i'm<00:10:12.560> open<00:10:12.800> to<00:10:12.880> the

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here you know and i'm open to the

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here you know and i'm open to the conservatives<00:10:13.440> as<00:10:13.519> well<00:10:13.920> i<00:10:14.000> call<00:10:14.240> out<00:10:14.320> richard

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conservatives as well i call out richard

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conservatives as well i call out richard sonic<00:10:14.959> often<00:10:15.200> because<00:10:15.440> he's<00:10:15.600> very<00:10:15.760> wealthy

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sonic often because he's very wealthy

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sonic often because he's very wealthy and<00:10:16.720> he's<00:10:16.880> a<00:10:16.959> chancellor<00:10:17.360> so<00:10:17.440> he's<00:10:17.600> very

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and he's a chancellor so he's very

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and he's a chancellor so he's very powerful

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powerful

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i'd be delighted to speak to him about

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ways they could improve the economy um

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ways they could improve the economy um yeah<00:10:22.640> i'm<00:10:22.880> open<00:10:23.120> to<00:10:23.279> it<00:10:23.680> you<00:10:23.839> can<00:10:23.920> give<00:10:24.079> them<00:10:24.160> my

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yeah i'm open to it you can give them my

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yeah i'm open to it you can give them my number<00:10:24.560> if<00:10:24.640> you<00:10:24.720> know<00:10:24.880> him

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i strongly suspect you wouldn't yes

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i strongly suspect you wouldn't yes um

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what else i want to say energy prices

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what else i want to say energy prices let's<00:10:50.640> talk<00:10:50.800> about<00:10:51.040> energy<00:10:51.360> prices<00:10:51.680> sarah

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let's talk about energy prices sarah

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went to burnley and filmed with some

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went to burnley and filmed with some really

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poor people in the proper sense of the

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poor people in the proper sense of the world

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yeah what what do these energy prices

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yeah what what do these energy prices tell<00:11:02.560> us<00:11:02.720> i<00:11:02.800> mean<00:11:03.040> obviously<00:11:03.519> everybody<00:11:03.920> was

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tell us i mean obviously everybody was

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tell us i mean obviously everybody was like<00:11:04.240> oh<00:11:04.480> the<00:11:04.640> energy<00:11:05.040> prices<00:11:05.519> are<00:11:05.600> going<00:11:05.839> up

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like oh the energy prices are going up

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like oh the energy prices are going up we<00:11:06.160> can't<00:11:06.320> do<00:11:06.560> anything<00:11:06.880> against<00:11:07.360> it<00:11:07.519> and

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we can't do anything against it and

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we can't do anything against it and unfortunately<00:11:08.480> now<00:11:08.640> you<00:11:08.800> have<00:11:08.880> to<00:11:09.040> pay<00:11:09.200> them

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unfortunately now you have to pay them

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unfortunately now you have to pay them yeah

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yeah

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okay the energy price situation is very

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okay the energy price situation is very very<00:11:13.120> serious<00:11:13.600> okay<00:11:13.920> it's<00:11:14.079> a<00:11:14.399> really

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very serious okay it's a really

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very serious okay it's a really significant<00:11:15.839> extra<00:11:16.079> cost<00:11:16.720> on<00:11:16.880> families<00:11:17.279> who

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significant extra cost on families who

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significant extra cost on families who cannot<00:11:17.680> afford<00:11:17.920> to<00:11:18.000> pay<00:11:18.240> it<00:11:18.399> you<00:11:18.560> know<00:11:18.640> we're

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cannot afford to pay it you know we're

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cannot afford to pay it you know we're talking<00:11:19.120> about<00:11:19.680> people<00:11:19.920> will<00:11:20.000> be<00:11:20.160> driven<00:11:20.399> into

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talking about people will be driven into

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poverty not able to hit their homes not

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able to feed their families not able to

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pay their rent their mortgages people

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become homeless this is really really

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become homeless this is really really really<00:11:27.839> serious<00:11:28.720> um

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really serious um

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really serious um the<00:11:30.079> message<00:11:30.480> i<00:11:30.560> would<00:11:30.720> like<00:11:30.880> to<00:11:30.959> put<00:11:31.200> out

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the message i would like to put out

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there is that in the last two years

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there is that in the last two years we<00:11:33.760> have<00:11:33.920> seen<00:11:34.160> an<00:11:34.399> unprecedented<00:11:35.120> increase

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we have seen an unprecedented increase

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we have seen an unprecedented increase in<00:11:35.600> millionaire<00:11:36.079> and<00:11:36.160> billionaire<00:11:36.560> wealth

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in millionaire and billionaire wealth

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in millionaire and billionaire wealth and<00:11:37.120> that's<00:11:37.360> a<00:11:37.440> result<00:11:37.839> of<00:11:37.920> the<00:11:38.000> way<00:11:38.160> we<00:11:38.320> dealt

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and that's a result of the way we dealt

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and that's a result of the way we dealt with<00:11:38.560> the<00:11:38.640> coping<00:11:38.959> crisis<00:11:39.760> so

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with the coping crisis so

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with the coping crisis so people<00:11:41.600> are<00:11:41.760> given<00:11:42.000> this<00:11:42.160> message<00:11:42.560> that<00:11:42.800> this

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people are given this message that this

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people are given this message that this is<00:11:43.440> almost<00:11:43.680> like<00:11:43.839> an<00:11:44.000> act<00:11:44.160> of<00:11:44.320> god<00:11:44.640> or<00:11:44.800> at<00:11:44.959> least

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is almost like an act of god or at least

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is almost like an act of god or at least it's<00:11:45.360> because<00:11:45.600> of<00:11:45.680> the<00:11:45.839> war<00:11:46.240> prices<00:11:46.560> have<00:11:46.640> gone

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it's because of the war prices have gone

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it's because of the war prices have gone up<00:11:46.880> there's<00:11:47.040> nothing<00:11:47.200> we<00:11:47.360> can<00:11:47.440> do<00:11:48.079> but<00:11:48.240> at<00:11:48.399> the

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up there's nothing we can do but at the

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up there's nothing we can do but at the same<00:11:48.720> time<00:11:49.600> we've<00:11:49.839> seen<00:11:50.320> the<00:11:50.480> average

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same time we've seen the average

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same time we've seen the average billionaire<00:11:51.200> increase<00:11:51.440> to<00:11:51.519> us<00:11:51.680> by<00:11:51.760> 630

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billionaire increase to us by 630

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billionaire increase to us by 630 million<00:11:52.639> pounds<00:11:52.880> in<00:11:53.040> this<00:11:53.120> country<00:11:53.680> a<00:11:53.839> single

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million pounds in this country a single

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million pounds in this country a single year<00:11:54.480> 22<00:11:55.200> increase<00:11:55.440> in<00:11:55.519> billionaire<00:11:56.000> and

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year 22 increase in billionaire and

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year 22 increase in billionaire and millionaire<00:11:56.480> wealth<00:11:56.720> the<00:11:56.800> biggest<00:11:57.120> ever

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millionaire wealth the biggest ever

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millionaire wealth the biggest ever single<00:11:57.600> year<00:11:57.839> increase<00:11:58.639> and<00:11:58.720> yet<00:11:58.959> we're

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single year increase and yet we're

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single year increase and yet we're sitting<00:11:59.440> here<00:11:59.839> with<00:12:00.079> a<00:12:00.160> cost<00:12:00.399> of<00:12:00.480> living

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sitting here with a cost of living

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sitting here with a cost of living crisis<00:12:01.040> which<00:12:01.200> means<00:12:01.440> ordinary<00:12:01.760> people<00:12:01.920> can't

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crisis which means ordinary people can't

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crisis which means ordinary people can't pay<00:12:02.240> the<00:12:02.320> bills<00:12:02.880> and<00:12:03.040> we're<00:12:03.200> saying<00:12:03.360> there's

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pay the bills and we're saying there's

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pay the bills and we're saying there's nothing<00:12:03.760> we<00:12:03.839> can<00:12:03.920> do<00:12:04.320> there's<00:12:04.480> no<00:12:04.720> money<00:12:05.040> it's

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nothing we can do there's no money it's

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nothing we can do there's no money it's it's

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it's

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it's it's<00:12:06.480> mind-blowing<00:12:06.959> to<00:12:07.120> me<00:12:07.519> you<00:12:07.680> know<00:12:08.240> why<00:12:08.560> are

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it's mind-blowing to me you know why are

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it's mind-blowing to me you know why are people<00:12:08.880> not<00:12:09.120> pointing<00:12:09.440> out<00:12:09.600> the<00:12:09.680> fact<00:12:09.920> that

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people not pointing out the fact that

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people not pointing out the fact that the<00:12:10.160> rich<00:12:10.399> and<00:12:10.480> the<00:12:10.639> super<00:12:10.880> rich<00:12:11.120> have<00:12:11.360> made<00:12:11.600> an

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the rich and the super rich have made an

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the rich and the super rich have made an unprecedented<00:12:12.720> and<00:12:12.880> unprecedented<00:12:13.600> amount

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unprecedented and unprecedented amount

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unprecedented and unprecedented amount of<00:12:13.920> money<00:12:14.320> in<00:12:14.480> the<00:12:14.560> last<00:12:14.800> two<00:12:14.959> years<00:12:15.600> if<00:12:15.680> you

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of money in the last two years if you

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of money in the last two years if you tax<00:12:16.079> them

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tax them

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tax them then<00:12:17.040> there's<00:12:17.200> no<00:12:17.360> crisis<00:12:18.240> but<00:12:18.399> we're<00:12:18.560> not

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then there's no crisis but we're not

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then there's no crisis but we're not talking<00:12:18.880> about<00:12:19.040> it<00:12:19.200> and<00:12:19.360> it's

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talking about it and it's

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talking about it and it's it's<00:12:20.480> driving<00:12:20.800> me<00:12:20.959> mad<00:12:21.200> and<00:12:21.279> you<00:12:21.360> know<00:12:21.760> that's

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it's driving me mad and you know that's

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it's driving me mad and you know that's why<00:12:22.160> i'm<00:12:22.240> talking<00:12:22.480> about<00:12:22.720> it