start off with um the political bits
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of leveling up
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yeah yeah what do you think about that
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uh it's a great idea it'd be nice if
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they did it um leveling up obviously
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um for me i'm an equality economist so
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at what's happened between individuals
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during the covert crisis it's been the
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biggest ever one year increase in wealth
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average british billionaire increased
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their wealth by 630 million pounds in
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government we've seen the poor driven
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the wealth exploding so for me
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poor people pockets by spending i don't
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trickles up i'm not down
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and most of that money was actually
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desperate need people who for example
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had lost their jobs so how is it that it
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ends up with the richest people at the
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basically thinking about this because i
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it was going largely to furloughed
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workers but i also knew that furloughed
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were pre-covered so this money's being
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poured in it's going directly to the
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the money because they've lost their
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incomes so you have to follow the money
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getting paid their wages anymore so
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actually the companies are not because
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they've lost their customers so if you
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it's customers who accumulated a huge
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amount of money during covid and people
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watching this might be thinking well i'm
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a customer i haven't accumulated 10 000
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pounds and the reason for that is
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you couldn't buy those things anymore
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during kobe so what happened was the
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and the consequence was ordinary
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families stopped being able to pay their
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bills so the money went in to the poor
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but straight away went back up to the
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accumulated by richer people during
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articles at the beginning of coverage
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prices are rising well that's what
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general thing apart from capitalism
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if you look into the history of it you
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piketty the french economist book
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chapters because he really looks into
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the history of it you know the history
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of inequality in this country it was
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very very high in the pre-war period
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then after the second world war it
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became much much lower that was a period
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of very high taxation you know famously
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um but in the 80s taxation of the riches
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was decreased massively now if you don't
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to realize that rich people generate
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huge amounts of income from their wealth
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so if you have a wealth of 200 billion
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chancellor you will get six million
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don't pay taxes then naturally their
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wealth will swell and they will take the
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this is the natural way of things if you
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don't tax rich people rich people are
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think actually there's actually been a
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this because i've been campaigning for
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greater taxation of the richest for a
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while now and i was talking about it 10
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years ago when i was a trader and back
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then people would say you can't tax the
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rich because it's bad for the economy
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and i think increasingly that kind of
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less popular i think increasingly people
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can see that the last 10 15 years have
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what's happening now is not working
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economically but now when i say you need
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to tax the rich people what comes back
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actually think what you've seen is
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the rich have kind of lost the battle on
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that's not the most positive response
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ordinary people are accepting that the
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much and they're not working
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um well actually it's a bit of a side
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question but i ask it nevertheless we're
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doing this also because there's a lot of
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about the jubilee of the queen
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do something about sweden you'd rather
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want to do something about the state of
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the uk economic state how is it going
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this country if you look at back 50s 60s
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70s you know my dad worked for the post
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office for 25 years i think 35 years in
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fact he never earned a lot of money but
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he was able to buy a house support three
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kids you know and now he's retired
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but now you have people working that
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kind of job who are literally homeless
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property or even get financial security
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doing everything right going to the
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right uni studying hard and they can't
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to become financially secure so um
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you know i wouldn't like to point their
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we've lost a lot
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my question would be is there not kind
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of baked in inequality in this country
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listen every country has inequality
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know what i campaigned for inequality
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and sometimes people turn around to me
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perfect equality and i say look
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economy you know 50 years ago inequality
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was much less than it is now and
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it is true you always have inequality
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economy your economy will still be
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destroyed you know what i mean we still
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need to manage this and it's growing and
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growing you know i've been analyzing the
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been betting on disaster because of
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inequality and i keep being right and i
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don't want to be right you know
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you know your car will never be perfect
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but you know if part of it is broken you
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still need to fix it and the economy is
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the same you know we will never have a
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better one than we have now
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i was poor and i wanted to be rich you
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i help my brother get a house i help my
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of my parents
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you know i was poor i know it's like to
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be poor when you're poor ain't no one
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unless you do it yourself
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good at maths at school you know i just
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thought why not me you know i went to a
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top students and
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yeah i thought i could do it when i went
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there are some smart people there but
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it's not full of geniuses yeah you know
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i'm as good as anyone why can't i be the
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top trade in the city and i was
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money and spread it around
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yeah but you know i literally made money
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and that's that's not a ideological
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thing my job was to analyze the economy
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i analyzed the economy my conclusion was
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inequality it's not being dealt with
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it's not going to be dealt with we will
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have a disaster i bet on that and then
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by the end of that year i was the top
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you don't need to be mahatma gandhi to
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say something should be done here you
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know what i mean if your job is to
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analyze fire security and the result is
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the whole city is going to burn down
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what are you going to do you're not just
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and tell people you know um
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look i'm a very good economist i've been
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paid very very well because i understand
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problem which is very serious and
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want us to fix it because i don't want
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um i don't want to name individual names
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haven't spoken to me since um but i'm
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here you know and i'm open to the
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sonic often because he's very wealthy
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i'd be delighted to speak to him about
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ways they could improve the economy um
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let's talk about energy prices sarah
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yeah what what do these energy prices
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tell us i mean obviously everybody was
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like oh the energy prices are going up
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we can't do anything against it and
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significant extra cost on families who
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cannot afford to pay it you know we're
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talking about people will be driven into
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poverty not able to hit their homes not
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the message i would like to put out
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people are given this message that this
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is almost like an act of god or at least
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it's because of the war prices have gone
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billionaire increase to us by 630
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single year increase and yet we're
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crisis which means ordinary people can't
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it's mind-blowing to me you know why are
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people not pointing out the fact that
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talking about it and it's
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