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Signing off: how close are we to winning higher taxes on the rich?

April 20, 2025
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okay welcome back to Gary's Economics for this

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the last video in this season of the channel

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I'm gonna take a break

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I'm going away for a couple of months

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so I wanted to make a video

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looking back over what has unambiguously been

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the most mental season of Gary's Economics so far

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okay

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so what have we done this season on Gary's Economics

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we've only been back about four months

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in that time I think we have been one of the fastest

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if not the fastest

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growing YouTube channels in the entire country

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we've successfully

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pissed off a big chunk of the most annoying people

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and newspapers in the entire country

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we have effectively driven wealth

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taxes and the idea that we need to tax wealth

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not work

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really aggressively into the public conversation

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we started to achieve the things which

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I've wanted to achieve for a long time and

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that's basically thanks to you guys

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last time I put the channel on pause was

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last year we shot

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I think at the beginning of July or the end of June

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and it was just after the

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general election had been called and

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I was quite knackered then

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probably not as knackered as I am now

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but I got quite emotional in that video

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I watched it back

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and the reason I got emotional was because I said

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in that video

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it's I I worked really

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hard last year

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we had the channel running for most of the first

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like 2/3 of the year

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and then when the election got called it

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the channel grew massively

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but when the election got called

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a little bit earlier than I was expecting

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it was just really clear to me that

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that we weren't gonna be able

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I wasn't gonna be able to influence the election

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it was really clear that Labour were gonna win

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but it was really clear

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we weren't gonna be able to influence their pitches

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their policies

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and I think I said at the time of the video

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it's difficult when you've worked so hard

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to look at how much work you've done

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and how far you've come and

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and then to look up and realise how much further

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you have to go before you can have any power

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before you can have any impact

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and it was I was a little bit depressed to be honest

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at the making that video

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but now filming this 17th of April

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this time we're putting the channel on pause

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it looks realistically I'm not just saying this

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it looks like something that eventually we

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we could maybe win

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the speed of the growth of this channel and this

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this message

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in this last season

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the last four months has been just unbelievably big

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it it was for periods

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the fastest growing YouTube channel in the country

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which it which is insane for a channel

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which is essentially talking about about

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redistribute politics and economics

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every newspaper in the country been speaking about it

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during this season we had the Spring Statement

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which is kind of like a mini budget here in the UK

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for those who don't know and

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during the coverage of that budget

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I think the single

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most prominent

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criticism of the government's economic policies

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during that period

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was why are you not taxing the rich more

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you know that's not just us

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and that's not just this channel that's

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that's pushed that message

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but I think a big part of it has been us and

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I have said before on this channel and I've

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I've thought for a while

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I've been very confident for a long time

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that the economy would get worse

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because of this worsening wealth inequality

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and that would move the

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economic and political conversation

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into a space where people demanded something

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new and I was of the opinion for a long time

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and I still probably am that the new

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this new right this alt-right

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the far right whatever you want to call them

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the anti immigrant right

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would eventually win power in a number of countries

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really quite simply

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because they were the only political

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solution on the table

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that felt like something new on the economy

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and I believe for a long time

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that if we can get this idea on

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the table

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that there is an alternative

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which is taxing the rich more

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taxing workers less taxing wealth

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not work

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that we could have a really good chance of winning

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policy change in the long run

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and for a long time it felt kind of unbelievable

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kind of unachievable

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because it just didn't seem like there was any demand

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in the kind of

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halls of power

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it didn't seem like anybody was talking about it

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it didn't seem like we could get it into the

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overton window to use a term

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I introduced a couple of videos

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to get it onto the table basically and

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it is just the first step and to some degree

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it is only in this country

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but we've got it onto the table

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in the last four months

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we have got that onto the table

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and this is now something that politicians

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have to talk about

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it's something that politicians get asked all the time

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it's something they have to have an idea about

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we've obviously not won the Labour Party over yet

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which are the party in government

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we've not won the government over yet

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but I never expected to win them

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now I think I've said very clearly on the channel

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my plan was to

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make this something that we can

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hopefully force Labour to do

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coming to the next election

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and the unbelievable growth in this channel

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the unbelievable growth in this message in the last

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four months makes me really for the first time in

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in the history of doing this channel

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makes me feel this is genuinely something

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that we can achieve generally something that

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that we can win and

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that is something that I am very proud of

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and it's something you can be very proud of

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because ultimately this is a YouTube channel

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it is increasingly a political movement

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which bases entirely

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its power on its popularity with the public

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its popularity with you

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its growth comes from people like you

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telling your friends

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telling your families telling your mum

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like I always say

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it's working you know

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the reason that think tanks lobby

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the politicians instead of speaking to the public

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is because they don't think it works

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they don't think you guys are powerful

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they don't think you guys have power

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they don't think there's any point talking to you

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they don't think there's any point

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basing movement on you and educating you and

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and we are proving them wrong

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and that's something we should all be very proud of

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but basically I'm totally knackered

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we used to shoot every three weeks

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and we would try to shoot three or four

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or maybe even five videos on a shoot day

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and that was how we did it but

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I've been so tired the last few weeks

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that I have been unable to shoot more than one video

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a shoot day

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which has meant that I have to shoot every week

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which means in the end

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I probably am ending up doing more work

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because I'm shooting every week

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I think the quality of the videos

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if I say so myself has been really

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really good

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well done also to Jack for his fantastic editing

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I think the quality has been really good this season

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but the flip side of that is it's just

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really taken out of me and I'm quite knackered

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which means we're not gonna be able to reshoot

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we're shooting this on the Thursday

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it's gonna go out on the Sunday

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and it will be the last video of the season

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and it'll be a couple of months break

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but I'll be back so for now just quickly the recap

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when I think back to this season

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I always think the video I did with Aaron

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Bastani at Novara

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right at the beginning of this press campaign and

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the first question he asked me was

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were you surprised by how well the hardback did

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so the hardback came out last year

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and it was No. 1 for two weeks

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and I always ask these guys not to send me the questions

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before cause I like to sort of be

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kind of actually answering them in the moment

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rather than trying to like

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remember my rehearsed answer

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but I said to him

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I was disappointed that the book didn't do better

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because I thought

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I thought the book got like

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mischaracterized as a kind of a finance book

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and I thought that it was actually a really good story

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and I thought it had the capacity to do

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to be much more than like No. 1 for two weeks

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and maybe people thought that was quite arrogant

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at the time but

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it's been number one for 11 weeks and

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I'll be honest I didn't expect it to do that much

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and I think that kind of encapsulates

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how I feel about this whole season

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which was

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the YouTube grew six times sub numbers last year

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and I didn't think

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we could possibly keep growing at that rate

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but then we've grown

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like two and a half times in the last three months

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basically everything this season was way bigger than

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I expected the book sold way better

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the growth in the subscriber numbers and the views was

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like dramatically more than I expected

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the increase in like

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public recognition that I get and like public sort of

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critique and the increasing like

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recognition on the streets has all been just like crazy

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it has been absolutely crazy

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for me personally

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that is like amazing this was always

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like the plan for the political project

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but it's been quite a lot for me

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personally and

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it's been knackering

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and I worry a little bit about how this channel

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is gonna work for me

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like long term from a mental health perspective

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especially if it keeps growing and I think politically

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you know if we wanna win

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I need to to make the channel keep growing

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but I need to find ways to make sure like

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we find that balance where the channel is growing

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but I'm not going insane basically

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that brings me onto my next point

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which I've got written down here

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which is how can we win so obviously

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I'm going away for a couple of months

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and I want to talk a little bit about when I go away

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I've taken breaks the last two years

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this one will be a little bit shorter

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there's always two reasons I go away

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which is 1 to stop me from going insane and 2

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because the channel has been going really quickly for

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about two years now and every time the channel grows

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I need to kind of take a step back

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and reassess the situation politically and be like

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what are we gonna need to be effective politically

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in the next couple of years

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the channel is much bigger now than it was even

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3 or 4 months ago

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so what are we gonna need now in order to win

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so I think the first thing to say is

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I think what

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the last four months have proven is that the

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the very basic strategy

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has a lot of potential which is

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I think there is

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like a massive demand amongst the public for like

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a very clear simple economic political message

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which is

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the reason we are getting poorer

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is because of this massive growth in inequality

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and we're not gonna fix that

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unless we stop that inequality from growing

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the inequality of wealth from growing

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I think that is powerful for a number of reasons

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one because it's true

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I think that is the biggest thing, two

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because it's simple, three

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it doesn't like

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muddy itself

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by trying to deal with loads of issues at once

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it just aggressively deals with this one issue

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of worsening living standards and worsening inequality

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so I think that course is running that can work

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that will work and I would encourage

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other people to look at that and say

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you know

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this is a message that that can win politically

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the second thing is I think this

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I think the slogan tax wealth not work

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has a lot of has a lot of legs in it

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you know I know

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I don't really love condensing things into slogans

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but the truth is you know

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I think you do need to do that if you if you wanna win

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so I think the first thing is like

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I think this is a winning strategy

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I think if enough people get behind this

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if enough people support this

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we can win power on this

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and we can change policy on this

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just a very clean

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simple economic message

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the reason living standards are falling

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is because wealth inequality is growing

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the rich are making enormously more money

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the middle class

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and working class are getting squeezed out

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the only way to fix it is to stop growing inequality

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to tax wealth not work

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I honestly think that can win

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I honestly think that can win

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but there are some clear weaknesses that I see

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I think the obvious

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like the really

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really obvious weakness at the moment is that

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at the moment this idea and these like

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slogans is just like way too tied to my personal

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like brand if you wanna call it that

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like my like media identity

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and you can see that in the way that

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like the right wing press has

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especially in the last like month or so

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just like

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really aggressively tried to attack me as a person

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like they're not really engaging with the ideas

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it's just like can we somehow attack Gary Stevenson

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can we take him out

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and that is because they can see that at the moment

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the idea the economic ideas are really solid

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but they are so attached to me as a person

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that if you can take me out

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you can kind of like kill the movement

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so I think what that shows

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us is that we absolutely need in the long run

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more people doing it we need more diversity of voice

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I think in particular

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we need what I I'm thinking of as academic cover

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which is economists people at think tanks

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people with this kind of academic credentials

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I have got two

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economics degrees from two top universities

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but because I am a Youtuber now

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and because I look and sound working class

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it's very

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very important that we have these this academic cover

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so I think we really

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really need more support from these think tanks

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especially the left wing think tanks

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like the New Economics Foundation

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like IPPR like the Resolution Foundation

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they really need to be coming in and doing work on this

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I would love to see more economists from from academia

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writing papers on this speaking publicly on this

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looking into things like the squeezing out of wealth

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of the middle class where's the wealth going

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you know what would the dynamics of that be

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how does that affect living standards

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we need more academic cover

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but we don't need just academics

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we just need way more diversity of voice in general

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so one thing that I've seen

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which I've really liked

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it's been very meaningful to me personally is

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is when like

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different kinds of communicators and artists come in

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so there was a clip of me on the

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on the Rizzle Kicks album

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Jordan Stevens who I know a little bit

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they put me on the on the album

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somebody sent us a cartoon

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they'd be making based on the

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the educational series learning the economy

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which is on this channel

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that stuff is really powerful as well

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I think I would love to see more communicators

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I think when we get loads and loads of messages

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like tons of messages of people like

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we love what you're doing

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how can we help you can I come and work for you

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how can we help and it's impossible really

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for me to even read all these messages

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never even reply to these messages

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so what I wanna do is tell you don't come to me

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just do it

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just understand the messages and just do it

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just go make the thing you know

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this guy is making the cartoon making the music

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you know

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whatever you wanna do you wanna print stickers

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you wanna make merch

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I'm not gonna sue anybody for making any merch

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using our name

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or making any art using our ideas or make any music

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like taking clips just go make it do the thing

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I wanna see more influencers coming through

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talking about these ideas

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I wanna see economists talking about these ideas

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I wanna see artists making art

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I wanna see musicians making music you know

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stickering campaigns, I would never

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ever encourage anyone to do a graffiti campaign

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or a stickering campaign or a posting campaign

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just do the thing

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do the thing that you wanna do that do the thing

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use your skill

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and if that means just like

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make a little community group

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talking to your community

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and there's the thing which I always encourage just

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just go and do it share the message

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but when I say that

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I always wanna caveat that with the thing I always say

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which is this is not a thing we win today or tomorrow

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or next week or next year

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I don't wanna tell you like go out

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do it go out and do it

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go out and do it and then have you run out

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exert a ton of energy exhaust yourself and then

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be knackered and depressed that we haven't won

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find a way to use your skills

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or your community to build this message

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over the long term in a way that's sustainable for you

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and your mental health but

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what we really need

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what I really need is for this message

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these ideas to not be so associated

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with just

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particularly me and my name and this YouTube channel so

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you know

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if you're a young person thinking about what to study

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and you're willing to go study economics

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go study economics

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f you're an economist nowadays

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go and write papers on these ideas and whatever

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if you can get in the civil service

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if you can get into government

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if you can create something

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if you can make a little group that wants to meet

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and talk about these things

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just basically build it build it yourself

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go and do it

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don't try and like pile everything up on top of my head

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because

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there's only so much

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I can balance on my head before I go totally insane

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that's another thing

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the other big risk I think to

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to this movement is is really my mental health

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to be honest

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I think anyone who's read my book

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you know my book

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is partially about you know

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me experiencing a burnout

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me overworking

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I think there's a kind of like irony to the book

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which is like the book was supposed to be in a way

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like a criticism of modern culture which

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which really lionizes like hard work and ambition

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there's a quote by not Shakespeare

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but a contemporary of Shakespeare

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which is ambition is a great man's madness

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and I wanted to try and sell a story of

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of a way of living which was a bit more balanced

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that we didn't have to be totally obsessed about

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working hard and achieving um

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and I locked myself

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in my room for nine months to write a book

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about that that was supposed to be a best seller

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and now it is 11 weeks a best seller

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and now I've got this massive YouTube channel

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and I'm working my absolute tits off

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driving myself mad

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I need to find ways

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if this is gonna keep growing and growing

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and growing and growing it's gonna be difficult for me

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and I need to figure out like

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how I can manage that personally

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on that note I wanted to really thank

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everyone who's subscribed to the Patreon

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like last year

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we were funded by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation and

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this year they they didn't renew our funding

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which meant we came into this year

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basically the only way that we could have funded it

00:19:10

was basically me paying for it

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we open the Patreon and

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the patron guys have you know

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they basically made it that I can have a manager

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none of the money ever goes to me

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I didn't even see the money

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there's a separate bank account

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someone else managed it

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and it means that I can totally focus on

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all the creative work the political work

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and I haven't had to focus on the financial work

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so and also

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it's just been really

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just meaningful to me to see people like

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willing to step in it and support it with

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with their money

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which makes it feel like it's not just me doing it um

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and that means I can use

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that money to think about things like

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getting an assistant getting a PA

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I think we are probably gonna need

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somebody to do like outreach work

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where they they can

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I get tons of messages

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so many messages from including like politicians

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journalists celebrities

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influencers people at these think thanks

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and it's impossible for me to even keep on top of it

00:20:02

so we might be able to hire somebody to do that

00:20:04

and we're only able to do that

00:20:05

because of the guys who support the patreon

00:20:07

so I wanted to thank you specifically

00:20:09

everyone who's on the patreon

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there are a few little loose ends

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I wanna tie up before I go away

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I plan to do another video before we stopped it

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but like I'm just basically

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I don't know if you've ever played the Sims

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and I was like when you play the Sims

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and you try to get your Sim to like

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do some studying

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and he's like so knackered that he just is like no

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I refuse it

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this is my own brain is doing to me at this point

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like I'm I'm properly exhausted

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but I wanted to do a couple of videos doing

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covering just a couple of the

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the common critiques that we've had in the last

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like couple of months

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and I'm not gonna do that video

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so I'm just gonna include them very quickly

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in this one

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one of the big criticisms we've had is that um

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raising tax on on wealth is like

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is pulling up the ladder you're

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you're preventing people from being able to get rich

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now you are rich yourself

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and this is just like totally insane

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basically that

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the whole thing I'm trying to do is

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lower taxes on working people

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and raise taxes on hoarded wealth

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so that very very wealthy people have to sell assets

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and those assets go back into the economy

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and ordinary working people

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get higher wages and pay lower taxes

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and can afford to buy assets

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like the whole thing I'm doing here

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is trying to make it so that ordinary

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working people

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young working people who wanna produce good things

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who wanna do good work can get rich and

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and buy assets the other attack

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which I get is that just like

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I wanna increase taxes and

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and increase the state

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which is mad because I've always made it totally

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totally clear that I'm not trying to increase taxes

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I'm trying to change who pays taxes

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I want to move the tax burden away from working people

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and towards the super rich

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and I think when you see how

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like these attacks are constantly

00:21:49

attacks on things that I've never said

00:21:51

I think it kind of makes it clear

00:21:54

what is really happening here

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which is you basically have a lot of rich people

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who are just trying to find any way to

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argue against the idea that they should pay more tax

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it's a lot of rich people who control a lot of media

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fund a lot of media they don't want to pay tax

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the last thing was

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this constant attack that I get which is well

00:22:15

taxing the rich is hard and

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if you wanna tax the rich so much

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can you please show me your like

00:22:21

completely designed tax plan

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I think it should be clear at this point that I am

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by far the the biggest and most recognized

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public campaigner

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for the need to stop growing inequality

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and that there's quite a lot of pressure and work on

00:22:39

on just me to to push this campaign

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I think we've had massive massive amount of success

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but even just driving

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the sort of public education campaign is really

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really knackering for me and it's been a ton of work

00:22:52

it should be obvious

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that I am not gonna be able to do that

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and simultaneously by myself

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design a complete tax plan for the country

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and this is what I mean when I say we need more people

00:23:06

we need more people you know

00:23:08

I'm gonna call out like the think tanks

00:23:10

the left wing think tanks like where are you

00:23:12

we need you we need you guys to make these tax plans

00:23:15

I can't be the guy that wins the public

00:23:17

support for this

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and gets attacked by the Daily Mail every day

00:23:20

and writes the whole plan

00:23:22

by myself like we need to have more people behind this

00:23:26

more people behind this

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so if there's any economists watching this

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people in government

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people in civil service and people in the think tanks

00:23:34

help us draw up these detailed tax proposals

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because I'm knackered and I can't do it by myself

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we need help we need help

00:23:41

the last thing I've got here is

00:23:42

the personal attacks on me

00:23:44

I don't really like doing these lists

00:23:45

but I'm so knackered

00:23:46

this is kind of all I've got left really

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loads and loads of personal attacks on me

00:23:50

which to be honest

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often are the funniest part of my day

00:23:53

the one thing I wanna say about this is

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you know I'm in a very

00:23:57

very fortunate situation here

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I don't need to win this I'm a rich guy

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if we lose I'll continue to be a rich guy

00:24:06

I'll get richer and richer

00:24:08

I don't need to win

00:24:10

so the Daily Mail can attack me all they want

00:24:11

when the Daily Mail attack me

00:24:13

what they're trying to do

00:24:14

is make sure that you pay higher taxes

00:24:16

and your family falls into poverty

00:24:18

and their billionaire owners don't have to pay tax

00:24:20

so really in a way

00:24:24

if the public can be convinced that I'm a dickhead

00:24:27

well I can finally go on holiday

00:24:30

it's your family's finances on the line

00:24:33

couple other things which I've got to tie up

00:24:36

we never answered

00:24:37

whether we’re gonna have Labour on the channel

00:24:38

thank you to everybody who

00:24:40

who replied about having Labour on the channel

00:24:42

I have decided first

00:24:45

I've been so knackered

00:24:46

I haven't really been able to seriously consider it

00:24:48

but I think what I'm gonna do is go back to them

00:24:50

and ask them if they would be willing to speak to me

00:24:53

not on the channel

00:24:54

about the economy and about their policy

00:24:56

because I think it has to be clear

00:24:59

I think our best chance in this country at least of

00:25:03

making change is is to influence the labour body

00:25:06

I think they will be

00:25:08

because the economy will continue to worsen

00:25:10

I think they will be like really phenomenally unpopular

00:25:12

and they will continue to become more unpopular

00:25:14

as we approach the next election

00:25:16

they'll be forced to do some change

00:25:17

and I want us to be able to influence that change

00:25:19

basically so I want

00:25:20

I want to be able to influence them

00:25:23

I don't think having them on this channel helps because

00:25:26

you know if I get them to send

00:25:27

you know Torsten Bell or someone on this channel

00:25:29

to defend not taxing the rich

00:25:31

and I have a massive argument with

00:25:33

you know somebody who could be the next Labour leader

00:25:35

for all I know I don't think that helps us get

00:25:38

we’d probably get views on here especially

00:25:40

you know we’d probably get some

00:25:42

some subscribers

00:25:43

but I don't think it helps our political power

00:25:47

just like having a massive public fight with the exact

00:25:50

people that we need to influence

00:25:52

I'm gonna try to see if they're interested

00:25:54

interested in talking to me about policy

00:25:56

and if they're not then I'm probably not interested

00:25:58

in having them on the channel

00:26:00

second thing

00:26:00

very little one is as the channel is growing a lot

00:26:02

there's been a massive growth in scammers

00:26:05

trying to convince people to join

00:26:06

like online

00:26:08

WhatsApp groups and stuff

00:26:09

trying to sell like like crypto and trading scams

00:26:11

I would never do that if anybody approaches you

00:26:13

it's a scam

00:26:16

when this first came up

00:26:17

we would try to get these guys taken down

00:26:18

but like all it means

00:26:20

I spent 20 minutes getting a channel taken down

00:26:22

and they just open 10 more channels

00:26:23

so there's really nothing I can do

00:26:25

you can complain to Instagram if you want but

00:26:27

just don't give any scammers your money

00:26:29

we don't sell any trading tips

00:26:30

and we never will okay

00:26:32

that's it basically yeah

00:26:33

lastly just yeah

00:26:35

thank you for just

00:26:37

the unbelievable growth it's

00:26:41

it's hard for me personally sometimes

00:26:43

as I've been

00:26:45

someone who has been betting on a weakening economy

00:26:47

for 14 years now and

00:26:51

and I'm very very confident that I'm right on this

00:26:55

I've made a lot of money on it

00:26:56

I think it's gonna keep happening

00:26:58

and the truth is in my heart of hearts

00:27:01

I've never really believed

00:27:03

that we could do anything to stop it

00:27:04

there is a little scene towards the end of my book

00:27:06

where when I used to be a trader

00:27:07

I'm speaking to my junior

00:27:09

an Australian guy in the book is called Arthur Kapowski

00:27:11

where I said to him like

00:27:12

do you think we should try and do something

00:27:14

about the collapsing economy

00:27:15

and he just didn't understand

00:27:17

and he just sort of laughed and he was like

00:27:19

you know there's nothing you can do

00:27:21

there's no way you can stop it and

00:27:23

the truth is like when I quit banking

00:27:26

I think in my heart of hearts

00:27:27

I believe that he was probably right

00:27:29

that it was kind of a fools errand that I was doing

00:27:32

walking away from a lot of money

00:27:33

to try to stop a bad thing from happening

00:27:35

which in reality

00:27:36

I would probably never be powerful enough to

00:27:39

to stop or even influence stopping

00:27:41

and I probably really did believe that

00:27:43

until up to about a year ago

00:27:53

but don't believe that anymore

00:27:56

I think we can maybe do this so

00:28:00

so let's keep building let's keep building

00:28:05

I wanted to there was another video that I wanted to do

00:28:08

which I've too knackered to do

00:28:09

which I'm gonna just tie in to the ending of this

00:28:11

I wanted to do a video this is so random

00:28:14

I wanted to do a video talking about the

00:28:17

the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire

00:28:21

and the reason I wanted to do that video is because

00:28:24

a lot of people don't know this

00:28:25

but the Aztec empire

00:28:27

which was in what is now Mexico

00:28:29

was a massive empire with

00:28:30

they think something like 12, 13

00:28:32

14 million people and the group of Spanish people

00:28:37

who eventually conquered the entire Aztec empire

00:28:40

was less than 3,000 people

00:28:45

and how was it that 3,000 people were able

00:28:49

to conquer and and destroy and

00:28:51

take all of the wealth and the land of an empire

00:28:55

which was you know more than 10 million people

00:28:59

what they did was they landed

00:29:02

they worked out the kind of political groupings

00:29:04

and they allied with the larger group

00:29:07

and they used that group to destroy the smaller group

00:29:10

and then

00:29:10

they split the larger group into smaller groups and

00:29:13

and they did the same thing again

00:29:14

they use the larger group to split into smaller groups

00:29:18

and through that repeated plan

00:29:21

3,000 people were able

00:29:24

to totally dominate and take all of the wealth

00:29:26

and all of the land of an empire of

00:29:29

you know 13 14

00:29:30

15 million people and

00:29:32

more than 10 million Aztecs died

00:29:34

at the hands of just

00:29:36

3,000 people. This is what can happen

00:29:41

if ordinary people in society

00:29:46

allow themselves to be driven against each other

00:29:48

and to hate one another

00:29:51

that can allow a tiny tiny

00:29:53

tiny group of people to to take all of your wealth

00:29:56

to take all of your assets

00:29:57

and to totally destroy your civilization

00:30:00

and your quality of life

00:30:01

and everything that you care about

00:30:03

this is the direction that

00:30:05

that we can go in

00:30:07

if ordinary people are unwilling or unable to

00:30:11

you know

00:30:12

look to the people that live either side of them

00:30:14

and stand with them to protect themselves from

00:30:17

from the rich and the powerful

00:30:21

and for a long time I thought that

00:30:23

in our increasingly individualistic society

00:30:28

because ordinary people were not sort of willing or not

00:30:31

not able to to look past their very narrow

00:30:33

selfish interests and stand next to each other

00:30:36

that they would lose

00:30:39

but the last few months

00:30:42

but I've seen so many people across the country

00:30:45

willing to take time out of their day

00:30:48

take effort to try and support a movement

00:30:51

that they don't gain anything from personally

00:30:53

because they know it's what the society needs

00:30:56

to protect each other

00:30:58

have made me believe that maybe

00:31:01

maybe we can win this

00:31:03

maybe we can stop wealth

00:31:05

flooding away from ordinary families

00:31:07

towards the rich

00:31:08

maybe we we can get that back and maybe we can win

00:31:13

but it's not going to be just me who wins it

00:31:16

and it's not going to depend really on me or what I do

00:31:19

it's going to depend

00:31:20

on you and how many of you

00:31:23

are willing and able

00:31:25

to spread that message and

00:31:27

I'm going away for a couple of months

00:31:28

I'm gonna be

00:31:30

yeah in Japan

00:31:31

Italy Portugal

00:31:32

Sweden and mainly promote my book

00:31:36

but when I come back

00:31:37

I wanna see more people making cool things

00:31:43

if they're gonna grind down

00:31:44

the ordinary people of this country

00:31:46

I want to

00:31:46

at least see you make some cool stuff on the way down

00:31:52

that's what's gonna help us win

00:31:54

you guys ordinary people

00:31:56

getting behind the simple idea that

00:31:58

if you don't stop growing wealth inequality

00:32:01

it will destroy living standards for ordinary families

00:32:03

for your kids and your grandkids

00:32:07

I've said it before I'll say it again

00:32:09

we're not gonna win this today

00:32:11

we're not gonna win this tomorrow

00:32:12

so um

00:32:13

be calm

00:32:15

be patient

00:32:16

be there for each other

00:32:18

God knows you're gonna need each other

00:32:21

but keep building, if you keep building

00:32:24

we can win this good luck