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Inflation, Interest Rates & House Prices

April 09, 2023
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imagine you gave your house and all  of your assets everything you own  

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to some rich guy and then you took a massive loan  from him and you gave the money back to him so  

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now you're in debt to him he owns everything how  can you not be poor and the answer is: you can't!

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all right so today we're going to do a nice  educational one uh topical about the main issues  

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which people are worried about today that we get  asked about a lot which are inflation, interest rates 

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and house prices often viewed I think as  3 separate concerns but they're very very  

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linked they're very related so I think if we cover  all 3 of these and the way they're related it  

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can really help people to understand how the  economy works and what's happening now right  

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so we're going to start with inflation so the  first thing is we've covered this before but I'll  

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go over it quickly I believe and I've said this  many times on the channel, that the inflation was  

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largely caused by the enormous amount of money  given out by this government and governments  

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all over the world during Covid uh the amounts  are truly enormous £700billion in this country (UK) 

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which is 14,000 pounds per adult, eight trillion  dollars in the US which is about 30,000 dollars  

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per adult huge amounts of money given out that amount of money has to end up somewhere ends  

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up in the bank accounts of private individuals  largely wealthier private individuals which means  

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huge huge, nobody is denying this by the way this  is generally accepted, enormous accumulation of  

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cash by richer individuals in the last three  years during Covid which is the reason why  

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I said in the first video on this channel that when we come out of Covid we will probably see a  

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big jump in inflation because there would have  been this massive cash accumulation with rich  

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individuals okay um that has not generally  been the mainstream media explanation of  

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inflation and they've been generally saying  it's because of sort of an anonymous after  

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effects of covid which never really explained  in much detail and of course the Ukraine war  

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I'm not denying that the war in Ukraine has caused  inflation especially with specifically with energy  

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that is a part of it as well but I think a big  part of it is this massive cash accumulation  

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during Covid if you give a huge amount of cash  out what you essentially do is you devalue the  

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currency because most people especially the  rich have huge amount more money, more money  

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going around, they can buy more things, they  can push prices up, prices go up and you know  

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we predicted it in advance and it happened! what does that mean going forward okay so if I'm right and  

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it was largely caused by this huge amount of money  given out by the government you would expect a  

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kind of relatively sharp jump in prices and then  for prices to start going up much more slowly  

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because the government gave a huge amount of money  out in a short period of time and now they are still  

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running a deficit higher than pre-covid and that is because basically there's been a massive  

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increase in poverty since covid because of the  inflation which means the government is now forced  

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to for example subsidise people's energy which has  cost the government, they're forced to provide more  

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poverty benefits because people are struggling  so the government gave a huge amount of money  

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out and now they have to keep giving money up at a  much slower rate so what I would expect to happen  

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is a big increase in prices and then for prices  to keep going up but not at this rapid rate so  

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we've seen the big increase and what I expect  happen now is that prices will will slow down  

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they will keep going up because the  government is still giving money out  

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but they will not keep going up at the rapid  rate so we will see a big fall in inflation  

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um almost certainly it's important that people  understand that a fall in inflation does not  

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mean a fall in prices right, inflation  is the rate of increase in prices so  

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prices jumped a lot they will keep going  up but that will slow down massively  

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um inflation will probably fall to something  like six seven percent maybe even lower this  

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year that is just simply because the  government is not giving so much money  

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out the government will try and take credit  for that but it's important to remember that  

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if prices are still going up six seven percent a  year then you know life is still getting harder  

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life is still getting worse for you and the  fall in inflation is really a fall in the rate  

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of decrease of your living standards it's not really something for the government to be proud of 

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okay so that's inflation covered for now  inflation will probably normalise right   

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I think it's because of the huge amount of money given out that that rich people still have, um  

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other people think it's because of other things um let's move on to interest rates so  

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interest rates have risen significantly here in the UK they're up to four and a quarter now (4.25%) 

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financial markets... first thing to say is financial  markets think that we are nearing the top now they  

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think that interest rates will probably peak at something like four and a half maybe four and  

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three quarters (4.5-4.75%) which means another just 1 or 2 increases in interest rates this year um 

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I suspect that'll probably be right in the short term & then interest rates will start to slowly come down 

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now there's been a lot of discussion about  interest rates and I want to talk about this one  

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because I think I think the situation is quite  interesting right there's been a lot of criticism  

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especially from the left, people saying what the  hell is the Bank of England doing raising interest  

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rates um and that's understandable because when  the bank raises interest rates your mortgage rate  

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goes up I think a lot of people are seeing massive  increase in their mortgage rates it's causing a  

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lot of problems um it increases the interest that the government has to pay on it's government debt 

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government debt is massively increased in  the last three years it's very large it's about  

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100% of GDP I think it's you know something like  30,000 pounds per person it's a lot um they  

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have to pay a higher interest rate, if you have a mortgage you have to pay a higher interest rate  

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um and people are understandably super stressed  about that right and they're turning around to the  

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Bank of England and they're saying 'well why are  you doing this? because you're hurting us you're  

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hurting us you're hurting the economy' and I think  this provides opportunity for a really interesting  

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discussion so the first thing to say is from  my perspective the inflation has been caused  

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by the government giving money out that has  ended up with rich people and we discussed this  

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exactly in the first video on the channel where  we predicted the inflation right where we said  

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if during covid the government is going  to give 700 billion pounds to the rich  

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the only way to avoid a crisis in  inflation and inequality because  

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that cash distribution increases both of those  things, is to take money back from the rich  

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through taxation policy you see that's  symmetrical if I give you money then the way  

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to reverse that and avoid the consequences  of that are to then tax money from you okay  

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but that's not what we're doing right what  we're doing is the government has given money  

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out which has ended up with the rich and then  rather than taxing money back from the rich  

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the Central Bank the Bank of England is increasing  interest rates and this is because economists when

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they think of inflation they always think of interest rates this is what happens in economists minds 

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if inflation is too high raise interest rates if inflation is too low lower interest rates  

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these are like the articles of faith of being an  economist they're really connected and they  

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tend not to think in terms of fiscal policy  so in economists minds they have these these  

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ideas of two levers that rule the economy one is  fiscal policy and that is government taxation and  

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expenditure so during covid the government run  a massive deficit that means they spent way more  

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than they taxed, that is what they would call a  fiscal stimulus, it's pouring money in in terms  

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of government spending that's fiscal policy  monetary policies is basically Central Bank  

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interest rates it includes quantitative easing which we've covered before but I think to keep  

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things simple let's just talk about interest  rates and that is you lower the interest rate  

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to speed the economy up, you raise the  interest rate to speed the economy down  

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it's important to recognise that these are two  different things all right and both of them  

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can affect inflation so if the government starts  spending a ton of money and during Covid most of  

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it's printed money that will push inflation up and  if the Central Bank starts slashing interest rates  

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that will also push inflation up but they're  different things right and I think the most  

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important thing to understand if you take anything  away from this video is that we are clearly using  

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the wrong policy to fix the inflation because if  we cause the inflation by giving money to the rich  

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then the way to fix it is to take money from the  rich, if we try to fix it by raising interest rates  

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what does that mean well interest rates  are the money that is paid by borrowers  

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in the economy to lenders in the economy and  I remember we've covered this on the channel  

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before that for every borrower there is a lender  for every lender there is a borrower okay it's  

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always perfectly matched you can't borrow money  from nobody, you can't owe money to nobody okay  

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so really when the Central Bank raises interest  rates what they are doing is they are benefiting  

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the lenders, so who are lenders? lenders are people  with large amounts of money who lend money out

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you know largely it's wealthy individuals you know  sometimes it goes through your bank so if you  

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have a huge amount of cash in the bank, your bank  lends that money to government, your bank lends  

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that money to mortgage borrowers, if you have a lot  of money in your pension, your pension fund lends  

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that money to the government, lends that money  to mortgage borrowers right so people with large  

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amounts of cash benefit when interest rates go up  and the people who lose are people who have large  

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amounts of borrowing which is the government first  and foremost and people with mortgages people  

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with large mortgages which is largely younger  homeowners & also it doesn't include homeowners  

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from rich families who don't have to use  mortgages right so when you raise interest rates  

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often you are benefiting rich people because  they have a lot of cash and your disadvantaging  

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the government and mortgagees; people who have  mortgages, that is increasing inequality and it's  

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not as simple as that right because there are  some poorer people have all of their money in  

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cash you may feel that they benefit there might  be some rich people have a large amount of debt  

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for example I have a large amount of debt as part  of my sort of trading portfolio but in general  

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when you raise interest rates you're moving money  from borrowers which is mortgage holders and 

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the government, to lenders which is rich  individuals especially older rich individuals so

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when the government has given money  out it's caused two things to happen  

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1. a massive increase in inequality & 2. a decrease in the value of the currency which we see as inflation

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if it wanted to perfectly offset that then it would tax the rich back but for some reason, which as you know

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i'm constantly maddened about, taxing the rich has never really been seriously in the discussion here even though  

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we've seen a massive increase in the wealth of the  rich, so instead we've gone for the default which is 

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raising interest rates now raising interest rates does increase the value of the currency so  

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the one half of it which is the devaluation of the currency you are fighting by raising interest rates  

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but the other half which was an increase in  inequality, raising interest rates makes that worse 

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right because you're forcing borrowers who are often not wealthy families, if you're wealthy you

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wouldn't take a mortgage and the government which means the taxpayer which means  

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ordinary working people because as we know the very wealthy don't pay high rates of tax  

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the taxpayer and mortgage holders have to pay more  money to the cash holders which are the people who've 

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accumulated huge amounts of cash during Covid, which is the rich, so in trying to fix with monetary policy  

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by the bank of England a problem which was caused  the fiscal or taxation policy by the government  

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you've ended up trying to fix a crisis  of inequality by more inequality so that  

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that means that the long run situation for the  economy and for for inequality is extremely bad  

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but it will succeed eventually in bringing  inflation down and this I think is  

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there'll be people who there will be some people  who won't like me saying this it will be unpopular  

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with some there's been a lot of criticism from  the left of the central bank for their interest  

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rate policy they're saying you know why are  you raising interest rates it's hurting people  

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if the bank of England kept interest rates at  zero the pound would have collapsed in currency  

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markets the pound would be worth half of what  it is now we'd be seeing an inflation crisis and  

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I mean it would be very similar to what happened  after the trussonomics disaster in Autumn so

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I think people who are pointing at the Bank of England (BoE) and saying this is your fault  

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listen I've got no love lost for the Bank of England or Andrew Bailey  

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um I think that they have no choice but to do this, the problem is because the government  

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and the broader economics discussion in the media have said nothing about taxing the rich  

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which would be the correct way to fix it, the Central  Bank has no option but to raise the interest rates  

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you know if we I think an interesting thought  experiment is to sit and think what if we reversed  

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the cash distributions of the last three years  what if we went to every single person in the top  

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10% of the country and said we want £140,000 tax  that would be a reversal like that it seems crazy  

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but that is what we have done in the last 3  years we've distributed £140,000 to the richest  

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5 million people in the country each person  right so if we took that back you would see  

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a collapse in inflation a massive collapses these  people desperately tried to raise that cash right  

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so the interest rates had to go up because we have  refused to have the discussion about taxing the  

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rich and if you give a ton of money to the rich  inflation will increase if you refuse to take the  

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money back the only option central banks have  to try and keep inflation is to raise interest rates

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and it will happen but in terms of looking  forward I believe that the inflation will come  

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down when it safely quickly which means that the  central banks including the Bank of England,

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the Fed, the European Central Bank (ECB) will stop raising rates relatively soon um I think that once that  

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inflation slows down you will start to see how  severe the economic weakness is underneath how  

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big the increase in poverty is and you'll probably  start seeing in my opinion interest rates start  

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to fall relatively quickly but that that depends  on whether there's a bit of a balance here right  

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because because we've seen such a big increase in  poverty it creates creates pressure on governments  

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to do more deficit spending and pump more money in  & if governments are forced to pump more money in 

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that could keep inflation higher over the long  term and I think what you're seeing here is kind  

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of the death throws of an economy which has given  up on tax taxing the rich so if you cannot tax the  

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rich and the rich have all the assets then you end  up in a situation where whenever there's a crisis  

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the rich get a ton of money and you can't get  it back so the only option you have is to raise  

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interest rates and that causes more poverty which  means you have to give more money to the rich  

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it's a question basically you're trying to solve  the question of how do you prevent poverty when  

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you are giving all of the assets to a group  of people that you can get nothing back from  

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it's almost a question of imagine you gave your  house and all of your assets everything you own  

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to some rich guy and then you took a massive  loan from him and you gave the money back to  

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him so now you're in debt to him he owns  everything how can you not be poor and the  

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answer is you can't so if you keep trying to  provide living standards without the ability  

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to tax the people who increasingly own everything  it's not possible so you will continue to see  

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this Balancing Act between the government has to  spend a deficit which keeps inflation High but I  

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think what you will see in this country I think  the conservative government has a big political  

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problem with high interest rates and that takes  us to our next point which is house prices so

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how do you buy a house in a world where  you're poor and the rich have everything  

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the answer is you borrow the money from the  rich and that that's mortgages and mortgages  

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have been the way that we have squared this  circle for the last 20 years in this country  

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which is the conservative government has quite a  political need for people to own property because  

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private renters and social renters  almost never vote conservative  

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um they need house prices to rise because  that's the only reason that older people feel  

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comfortable because the house prices are rising  so they need to keep people owning property  

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but inequality is rising and rising, the middle  class are losing their assets so how do we keep  

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ordinary people owning property when inequality is  rising because rising inequality of wealth means  

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you lose your assets but we need you to lose your  assets but keep your house how is that possible  

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the answer is increasing debt so you can keep your  house and you can just get more and more and more  

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and more in debt to the rich that way you stay a  property owner so you keep voting conservative but  

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you become poorer and poorer generation after  generation so it's really mortgages and debt  

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I like the magic solution that works for the  government and that has been working for them  

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for the last 15 years quite well politically  because the rich get richer and richer because  

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you owe them more and more and more money but you  keep your house so everybody's winning the rich  

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get richer you get poorer but you keep voting for  them because you're a homeowner and what you want  

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is for asset prices to go up it's really really  good for the conservatives and it's really bad for  

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people in general and this is why higher interest  rates are a disaster for the conservatives because  

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they need ordinary people to be taking huge  amounts of debt and huge amounts of debt are  

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not affordable for ordinary people at interest  rates of six seven eight percent which is what  

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a lot of mortgage rates have gone up to right  so they need interest rates to come down they  

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need interest rates to come down desperately so  I think what they will do and what you're seeing  

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them doing is they will try their best to run as much as possible an extreme austerity government  

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in the next year and a half in a desperate  attempt to bring inflation down quickly  

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so that interest rates come down and as soon as  interest rates come down you will start to see  

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those house prices go up because of the thing we  mentioned at the beginning of the video which is  

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that 700 billion pounds which has been given out  by the government the last three years is still  

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sitting in the bank accounts of the rich and this  is the big conflict we have right the rich have  

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all that money and what would the rich people  do with money they want to buy assets so house  

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prices want to go up but rich people themselves  don't want to go out and buy a ton of houses right  

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because buying houses is a hassle you know you  need to manage tenants, super rich people don't

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want to be having to fix poor people's boilers things  like this they don't want to be involved in stuff  

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like that so what they normally do is they lend  the money out they lend the money out but suddenly  

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poor people can't afford to borrow the money  anymore so it's created this it's created this  

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two forces in house prices which is on the  one hand house prices should be going up  

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because the rich have got a ton of money and it's important to be clear house prices have

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gone up by about 20% since the beginning of Covid, and now they've come down about 3-4%

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so that force of the rich having a ton of money  push house prices up but now the mechanism by  

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which rich people buy houses and I think  this is an interesting thing to consider  

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mortgages are in a very real way  the way that rich people buy houses  

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so I've got half a million pounds and  you've got nothing and you want a house  

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there's two ways I can give you housing I can  buy the house myself and I can rent it to you  

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or I can lend you the half a million pounds you  can buy the house and instead of paying rent you  

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pay me Interest financially it's very similar  if you think about it in both cases I provide  

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all of the money for the house to be bought and  in one case you pay me rent and other case you  

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pay me interest so really mortgages are the way  that the rich buy houses for the poor but that  

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channel has become blocked because the poor can no longer afford the interest um so I think there are  

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two things that can possibly happen here and the  way it will play out will depend on the country  

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one is in this country I think the government  will do everything they can to bring inflation  

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down but that will come at the cost of really  crushing the economy and crushing ordinary people  

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um I think the way they'll hope to survive that  is by making a bit of room to like throw a load  

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of money immediately before the election they  will try to bring the interest rates down and  

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as soon as interest rates come down then you will  see this flood of money that the rich have again  

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they continue to push house prices up even though  they've already gone up 20% I think they can go up  

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a lot more if you look at after 2008 house prices basically doubled over the next 10-15 years 

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and I think they can do that again so if the interest rates come down then this channel  

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will open up again the interesting question  is what if interest rates don't come down  

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which is what could happen if governments  are forced to keep running big deficits  

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in that case you'll have the question of how  do the rich people buy their houses when they  

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can't lend the money out and I think what you  will see if that happens is the rich will start  

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buying the houses through corporations and you  will start to see much more corporate landlording  

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so I lived in Japan for a long time and I  think increasingly in the US you're seeing  

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rather than the rich lending the pool of money  via mortgages the rich pull their money together  

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into corporations so there's I think it's is  it BlackRock or is it Blackstone in the U.S  

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it's a massive company which owns a huge amount of housing, rich people pool their money together  

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in corporations the corporations buy the houses  and the corporations lend the money out because  

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it's quite interesting at the moment you're  seeing rents go through the roof at the same  

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time as house prices go down and the rich are  sitting on a huge pile of cash so it's a it's  

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a massive investment opportunity for wealthy  people with cash because rents are super high  

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and they've got a ton of money and the prices are  cheap so the rich should be buying these houses  

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and bringing the rent in but the problem simply  is rich people are you know too lazy to go  

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and buy 10 houses right and it's becoming more  it's it's cumbersome right rich people don't  

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want to be becoming massive buy-to-let landlords right so but either way the money is there  

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and that will force house prices up in the long term  and I think what you're just seeing is the the  

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mortgage channel get blocked in the meantime um  but what you would inevitably see in any case is  

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the massive gift of cash to the rich will manifest  in increased inequality of real assets  

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either through much higher mortgages which means a  much higher amount of debt from ordinary families  

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to the rich, we've already seen a much higher debt  from the government to the rich and what you will  

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see is increased direct holding of properties  I think it's important to realise when that  

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mortgage channel gets blocked it provides a massive  opportunity for rich people who can just pay cash  

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they don't need a mortgage they can just buy cash  at the cheaper price get in that massive increase in  

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rental income rents are going absolutely through  the roof and they can profit from that so every

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single step of the way, Covid management  meaning massive cash transfer from the  

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government to the rich, higher interest rates meaning higher debt payments from mortgagees and the  

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government to the rich and falling house prices  at the same time as high mortgage rates means  

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cheaper access to housing if you have the cash,  which only rich people do, every single step of  

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the way is benefiting the rich and hurting ordinary middle class families and there's nothing that 

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will prevent this if we don't start discussing more seriously taxation of the rich

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so to make clear the predictions  you know inflation will come down  

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um it will still be positive for a while  interest rates will stop going up and I  

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think they'll probably start coming down  it might take a year or two um house prices  

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they're clearly falling at the moment even though  they're still significantly higher than pre-covid  

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I don't think that will last I think as soon as  interest rates start falling they will start  

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going up and even if they don't you'll just start seeing more more Corporate Land lording

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& I know these are pessimistic predictions uh  we get a lot of people saying that these are  

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pessimistic predictions but this is what happens  if you don't text the rich and if you don't want  

00:24:05

bad outcomes you cannot allow inequality to  get higher and higher so support the channel  

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we're always pushing for higher taxation of the  richest and that's you know that's the only way 

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we're going to prevent these things I know  that these are not good for ordinary families  

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we can't fix it without without improving  taxation policy so let's do that okay thats all