is happening in financial markets shares
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gamestop are now worth
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beginning of the year
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economist and former city trader
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so i think to understand what's
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markets you you wouldn't know it
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soaring right there's there's been an
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what has happened to the economy
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is they're sitting at home
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coronaries crisis they're not making
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money and they haven't had quite the
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markets fly through the roof
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and you know some people are calling it
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stock markets are flying through the
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property markets but ordinary people
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people are starting to think well it's
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said we want to get involved and we want
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stockholders and um it's it's been crazy
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so they've all turned into this one-stop
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the u.s hedge fund
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and it it just is a phenomenal story but
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when governments basically try and fix
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issues that are happening so
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uh short selling is a way that um
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and make money on the price of a stock
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a pr if a stock's gonna go up it's
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pretty simple you do you go out you buy
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the stock it goes up you sell it
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so how do you make money from a stock
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something you don't own
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so what these people have to do is they
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go out and they borrow a stock
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then they sell it and they hope that
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line two weeks down the line
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redditors these people on the internet
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short positions on gamestop because
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because actually they thought it was a
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right i mean they've done the analytics
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they could see that it had been falling
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so they were short available it um but
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these guys are ready and you know i
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would love to know who initiated it um
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they looked at it and said well these
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who need to borrow the stock
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in order to short sell it they won't be
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able to short sell anymore and then
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they will then have to buy at the higher
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prices because they they can't keep a
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so this is what is known in financial
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it's happened many times in history
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there's a big short squeeze in gold in
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the 80s where people just try and
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board it's called wall street bets
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quite phenomenal to be honest and uh
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certain hedge funds are not happy so
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hedge funds have lost money but um
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it really is a phenomenal story um
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my concern is really you know what's
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happened over the last couple of years
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and you know i get messages from a lot
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of people um telling me you know how can
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make money and
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when i talk to these people often what
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you find is um they're worried that
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you know my background is i come from
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of money in the city essentially
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gambling on the stock markets can get
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can't get you so there's a lot of people
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um but my concern is
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them work isn't working for them
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they're going to be dragged into this
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and they are going to quite possibly be
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some people have made huge amounts of
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amounts of money on this
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but there will be more losses to come
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when the people who are holding it
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for you know this is my worry that
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mania and when they collapse
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my worry is who is going to be left
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holding the baby when these things fall
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gary stevenson thank you as well great
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