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GAMESTOP: Armchair Investors - Gary on Sky News Podcast with Dermot Murnaghan

February 04, 2021
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over the past week or so investing has

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over the past week or so investing has not<00:00:02.560> been<00:00:02.800> a<00:00:02.960> mysterious<00:00:03.840> sport<00:00:04.240> taking<00:00:04.640> place

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not been a mysterious sport taking place

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not been a mysterious sport taking place in<00:00:05.040> the

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lofty heights of wall street instead

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lofty heights of wall street instead it's<00:00:07.839> been<00:00:08.000> like<00:00:08.240> a<00:00:08.320> gripping

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it's been like a gripping

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it's been like a gripping fast-paced<00:00:09.679> film<00:00:10.000> with<00:00:10.160> an<00:00:10.320> all-star<00:00:10.880> cast<00:00:11.920> in

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fast-paced film with an all-star cast in

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fast-paced film with an all-star cast in an<00:00:12.320> ordinary<00:00:12.799> trading<00:00:13.200> day<00:00:13.440> hedge<00:00:13.759> funds<00:00:14.080> can

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an ordinary trading day hedge funds can

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an ordinary trading day hedge funds can make<00:00:14.400> huge<00:00:14.799> profits<00:00:15.280> betting<00:00:15.599> against<00:00:15.920> firms

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make huge profits betting against firms

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make huge profits betting against firms short<00:00:18.240> selling<00:00:18.480> is<00:00:18.560> a<00:00:18.640> way<00:00:18.800> that<00:00:18.960> an<00:00:19.119> ordinary

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short selling is a way that an ordinary

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short selling is a way that an ordinary person<00:00:19.760> can<00:00:19.920> make<00:00:20.160> money<00:00:20.400> from<00:00:20.560> the<00:00:20.640> price<00:00:20.880> of

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person can make money from the price of

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person can make money from the price of a<00:00:21.119> stock

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a stock

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a stock falling<00:00:22.400> okay<00:00:22.720> if<00:00:22.800> you<00:00:22.880> think<00:00:23.039> a<00:00:23.119> stock<00:00:23.359> is

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falling okay if you think a stock is

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falling okay if you think a stock is going<00:00:23.519> to<00:00:23.600> go<00:00:23.760> up<00:00:23.920> it's<00:00:24.080> obvious<00:00:24.320> what<00:00:24.480> you<00:00:24.640> do

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going to go up it's obvious what you do

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going to go up it's obvious what you do you<00:00:25.039> buy<00:00:25.279> it

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you buy it

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you buy it the<00:00:25.760> price<00:00:26.000> goes<00:00:26.320> up<00:00:26.480> you<00:00:26.640> sell<00:00:26.800> it<00:00:26.960> you've

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the price goes up you sell it you've

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the price goes up you sell it you've made<00:00:27.279> money<00:00:27.680> but<00:00:27.840> what<00:00:28.000> do<00:00:28.080> you<00:00:28.160> do<00:00:28.240> if<00:00:28.320> you

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made money but what do you do if you

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made money but what do you do if you think<00:00:28.560> it's<00:00:28.640> going<00:00:28.800> to<00:00:28.880> fall

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think it's going to fall

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think it's going to fall well<00:00:29.679> you<00:00:29.760> want<00:00:29.920> to<00:00:30.080> sell<00:00:30.320> it<00:00:30.560> but<00:00:30.720> you<00:00:30.800> can't

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well you want to sell it but you can't

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well you want to sell it but you can't sell<00:00:31.199> it<00:00:31.359> unless<00:00:31.599> you<00:00:31.679> have<00:00:31.840> it<00:00:32.079> so<00:00:32.239> the<00:00:32.399> way<00:00:32.480> it

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sell it unless you have it so the way it

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sell it unless you have it so the way it works<00:00:32.880> is<00:00:33.120> first<00:00:33.360> you<00:00:33.520> have<00:00:33.680> to<00:00:33.840> borrow<00:00:34.239> it<00:00:34.399> and

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works is first you have to borrow it and

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works is first you have to borrow it and then<00:00:34.719> you<00:00:34.880> sell<00:00:35.120> it

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then you sell it

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then you sell it so<00:00:35.520> i<00:00:35.600> think<00:00:35.760> it's<00:00:35.920> easier<00:00:36.079> if<00:00:36.239> you<00:00:36.320> imagine

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so i think it's easier if you imagine

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so i think it's easier if you imagine say<00:00:37.360> the<00:00:37.520> example<00:00:37.840> of<00:00:37.920> a<00:00:38.000> library<00:00:38.320> book<00:00:38.559> okay

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say the example of a library book okay

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say the example of a library book okay you<00:00:39.600> borrow<00:00:39.840> the<00:00:39.920> library<00:00:40.160> book<00:00:40.399> and<00:00:40.480> then<00:00:40.559> you

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you borrow the library book and then you

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you borrow the library book and then you sell<00:00:40.800> it<00:00:40.879> straight<00:00:41.120> away<00:00:41.520> but<00:00:41.680> remember<00:00:42.000> you

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sell it straight away but remember you

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sell it straight away but remember you have<00:00:42.239> to<00:00:42.320> give<00:00:42.399> that<00:00:42.559> library<00:00:42.879> book<00:00:43.120> back<00:00:43.280> in

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have to give that library book back in

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have to give that library book back in two<00:00:43.520> weeks<00:00:43.840> time<00:00:44.079> and<00:00:44.239> you've<00:00:44.320> already<00:00:44.559> sold

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two weeks time and you've already sold

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two weeks time and you've already sold it<00:00:44.879> so<00:00:45.039> what<00:00:45.120> do<00:00:45.200> you<00:00:45.280> do

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it so what do you do

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it so what do you do two<00:00:46.239> weeks<00:00:46.559> pass<00:00:47.120> hopefully<00:00:47.680> the<00:00:47.840> price<00:00:48.079> has

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two weeks pass hopefully the price has

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two weeks pass hopefully the price has already<00:00:48.399> fallen<00:00:48.879> so<00:00:49.039> you<00:00:49.200> buy<00:00:49.360> it<00:00:49.440> back<00:00:49.600> for

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already fallen so you buy it back for

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already fallen so you buy it back for cheaper

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cheaper

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you give it back to the library happy

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you give it back to the library happy days<00:00:52.160> you're<00:00:52.320> done<00:00:53.039> if<00:00:53.199> the<00:00:53.280> price<00:00:53.520> hasn't

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days you're done if the price hasn't

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days you're done if the price hasn't already<00:00:54.160> fallen<00:00:54.559> you<00:00:54.640> might<00:00:54.960> try<00:00:55.120> and<00:00:55.199> extend

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already fallen you might try and extend

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already fallen you might try and extend that<00:00:55.760> loan

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that loan

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so that's how short selling works but

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so that's how short selling works but the<00:00:58.160> stock<00:00:58.480> market<00:00:58.879> has<00:00:59.039> been

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the stock market has been

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the stock market has been far<00:00:59.760> from<00:01:00.320> ordinary<00:01:01.199> what<00:01:01.359> if<00:01:01.920> two<00:01:02.160> weeks

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far from ordinary what if two weeks

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far from ordinary what if two weeks comes

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and suddenly the library says you can't

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and suddenly the library says you can't extend<00:01:05.040> your<00:01:05.199> loan<00:01:05.920> so<00:01:06.000> that's<00:01:06.240> basically

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extend your loan so that's basically

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extend your loan so that's basically what's<00:01:06.799> happened<00:01:07.040> here

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what's happened here

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what's happened here these<00:01:08.000> guys<00:01:08.320> already<00:01:08.799> they<00:01:08.960> realized<00:01:09.280> that<00:01:09.439> a

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these guys already they realized that a

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these guys already they realized that a lot<00:01:09.600> of<00:01:09.680> hedge<00:01:09.920> funds<00:01:10.479> had<00:01:10.799> shorted<00:01:11.439> a<00:01:11.520> lot<00:01:11.680> of

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lot of hedge funds had shorted a lot of

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lot of hedge funds had shorted a lot of the<00:01:11.920> gamestop<00:01:12.400> stock<00:01:12.720> which<00:01:12.880> means<00:01:13.119> they

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the gamestop stock which means they

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the gamestop stock which means they borrowed<00:01:13.760> lots<00:01:13.920> of<00:01:14.080> it<00:01:14.159> and<00:01:14.320> it<00:01:14.479> sold<00:01:14.799> it

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borrowed lots of it and it sold it

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borrowed lots of it and it sold it well<00:01:15.360> they<00:01:15.600> said<00:01:15.840> if<00:01:15.920> we<00:01:16.159> buy<00:01:16.400> all<00:01:16.479> the<00:01:16.640> stock

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well they said if we buy all the stock

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well they said if we buy all the stock when<00:01:17.439> that<00:01:17.840> loan<00:01:18.159> comes<00:01:18.479> due

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when that loan comes due

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when that loan comes due and<00:01:19.040> these<00:01:19.200> guys<00:01:19.439> come<00:01:19.680> back<00:01:19.920> saying<00:01:20.799> can<00:01:21.040> we

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and these guys come back saying can we

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and these guys come back saying can we extend<00:01:21.600> our<00:01:21.759> loan<00:01:22.080> please

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extend our loan please

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we can say no and then basically they'll

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we can say no and then basically they'll have<00:01:25.439> no<00:01:25.840> option

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have no option

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but to buy the stock from us at any

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but to buy the stock from us at any price<00:01:28.880> because<00:01:29.119> they<00:01:29.280> can't<00:01:29.520> borrow<00:01:29.840> again

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price because they can't borrow again

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price because they can't borrow again so<00:01:31.119> you<00:01:31.280> buy<00:01:31.520> it<00:01:31.600> here<00:01:32.079> you<00:01:32.240> push<00:01:32.400> it<00:01:32.479> up<00:01:32.560> to<00:01:32.640> a

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so you buy it here you push it up to a

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so you buy it here you push it up to a much<00:01:32.880> higher<00:01:33.200> price<00:01:33.600> and<00:01:33.680> when<00:01:33.840> the<00:01:33.920> short

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much higher price and when the short

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much higher price and when the short sellers<00:01:34.479> come<00:01:34.640> in<00:01:34.720> you<00:01:34.880> sell<00:01:35.040> it<00:01:35.119> to<00:01:35.280> them<00:01:35.439> a

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sellers come in you sell it to them a

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sellers come in you sell it to them a lot<00:01:35.680> higher<00:01:35.920> i<00:01:36.079> know<00:01:36.159> you<00:01:36.240> make<00:01:36.400> your<00:01:38.840> profit

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lot higher i know you make your profit

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lot higher i know you make your profit gamestop<00:01:41.280> blackberry<00:01:42.079> nokia<00:01:42.720> blockbuster

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gamestop blackberry nokia blockbuster

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and now silver have all been subject to

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and now silver have all been subject to that<00:01:46.320> exact

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that exact

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process you've just heard the economist

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process you've just heard the economist gary<00:01:49.119> stevenson<00:01:49.920> talk<00:01:50.159> about

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gary stevenson talk about

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gary stevenson talk about wall<00:01:51.439> street<00:01:51.759> bets<00:01:52.159> is<00:01:52.320> a<00:01:52.479> popular<00:01:52.960> forum<00:01:53.360> on

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wall street bets is a popular forum on

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wall street bets is a popular forum on social<00:01:53.920> media<00:01:54.320> site<00:01:54.640> reddit

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social media site reddit

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social media site reddit young<00:01:55.520> people<00:01:55.759> with<00:01:55.920> an<00:01:56.159> interest<00:01:56.560> in<00:01:56.719> amateur

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young people with an interest in amateur

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young people with an interest in amateur investing

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investing

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swap tips and share their latest trading

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swap tips and share their latest trading antics

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mostly using easy to use apps on their

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phone like robin hood to get involved in

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the market with just a few dollars

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the market with just a few dollars the<00:02:10.319> community<00:02:10.879> there<00:02:11.360> noticed<00:02:11.840> that<00:02:12.160> massive

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the community there noticed that massive

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the community there noticed that massive hedge<00:02:12.959> funds<00:02:13.360> like

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hedge funds like

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hedge funds like melvin<00:02:14.319> capital<00:02:14.879> and<00:02:15.040> citron<00:02:15.520> research<00:02:16.319> had

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melvin capital and citron research had

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melvin capital and citron research had bet<00:02:16.800> against<00:02:17.120> a<00:02:17.280> struggling<00:02:17.760> video<00:02:18.160> game

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bet against a struggling video game

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bet against a struggling video game store<00:02:18.879> called

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store called

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store called gamestop<00:02:20.480> with<00:02:20.720> the<00:02:20.800> pandemic<00:02:21.440> hitting<00:02:21.840> shops

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gamestop with the pandemic hitting shops

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gamestop with the pandemic hitting shops like<00:02:22.319> this<00:02:22.640> hard<00:02:23.040> these<00:02:23.360> billion<00:02:23.680> dollar

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like this hard these billion dollar

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like this hard these billion dollar hedge<00:02:24.239> funds

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hedge funds

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anticipated that the share price would

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anticipated that the share price would just<00:02:27.280> keep<00:02:27.520> on<00:02:27.840> tumbling

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just keep on tumbling

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just keep on tumbling and<00:02:29.440> that's<00:02:30.080> when<00:02:30.319> these<00:02:30.640> armchair<00:02:31.440> investors

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and that's when these armchair investors

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and that's when these armchair investors decided<00:02:32.879> to<00:02:33.120> get<00:02:33.360> involved<00:02:33.840> in<00:02:34.000> a<00:02:34.080> move<00:02:34.400> that

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decided to get involved in a move that

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decided to get involved in a move that would<00:02:34.800> bring<00:02:35.280> chaos<00:02:35.760> to<00:02:35.920> wall<00:02:36.239> street

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would bring chaos to wall street

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would bring chaos to wall street [Music]

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[Music] they<00:02:39.599> collectively<00:02:40.319> decided<00:02:40.800> to<00:02:40.879> buy<00:02:41.200> shares

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they collectively decided to buy shares

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they collectively decided to buy shares in<00:02:41.760> gamestop<00:02:42.319> themselves

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in gamestop themselves

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and as they bought more and more the

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and as they bought more and more the share<00:02:46.080> price<00:02:46.400> was<00:02:46.640> pushed

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share price was pushed

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share price was pushed higher<00:02:47.519> and<00:02:47.760> higher<00:02:48.319> and<00:02:48.840> higher

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higher and higher and higher

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the hedge funds that had bet against

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the hedge funds that had bet against gamestop<00:02:52.560> lost<00:02:52.959> out

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gamestop lost out

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big time estimates have placed the total

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big time estimates have placed the total cost<00:02:56.480> to<00:02:56.720> short<00:02:57.120> sellers<00:02:57.519> at<00:02:57.680> around<00:02:58.000> 19

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cost to short sellers at around 19

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cost to short sellers at around 19 billion<00:02:59.519> dollars<00:03:00.640> so<00:03:01.040> was<00:03:01.360> this<00:03:01.760> about<00:03:02.080> a<00:03:02.239> few

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billion dollars so was this about a few

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billion dollars so was this about a few amateurs<00:03:02.959> on<00:03:03.040> the<00:03:03.120> internet<00:03:03.519> making<00:03:03.840> money

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amateurs on the internet making money

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amateurs on the internet making money and<00:03:04.319> playing<00:03:04.560> hedge<00:03:04.879> funds<00:03:05.120> at<00:03:05.200> their<00:03:05.440> own

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and playing hedge funds at their own

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and playing hedge funds at their own game

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or does this spell trouble for wall

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or does this spell trouble for wall street

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is trading in meme stocks a bit of fun

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is trading in meme stocks a bit of fun or<00:03:12.800> is<00:03:13.040> it

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or is it

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a dangerous game welcome to the sky news

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a dangerous game welcome to the sky news daily<00:03:17.120> podcast<00:03:17.680> with<00:03:17.840> me

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daily podcast with me

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daily podcast with me dermot<00:03:18.800> murnan

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is this the small investors sticking it

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is this the small investors sticking it to<00:03:30.400> the<00:03:30.640> man<00:03:31.040> the

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to the man the

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to the man the ordinary<00:03:31.840> people<00:03:32.080> versus<00:03:32.480> the<00:03:32.560> hedge<00:03:32.879> funds

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ordinary people versus the hedge funds

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ordinary people versus the hedge funds well<00:03:34.400> that's<00:03:34.560> definitely<00:03:34.879> how<00:03:35.040> it's<00:03:35.200> being<00:03:35.360> um

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well that's definitely how it's being um

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well that's definitely how it's being um being<00:03:36.159> portrayed<00:03:36.640> in<00:03:36.799> a<00:03:36.799> lot<00:03:36.959> of<00:03:37.040> the<00:03:37.120> media

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being portrayed in a lot of the media

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being portrayed in a lot of the media and<00:03:37.519> i<00:03:37.599> can<00:03:37.760> totally<00:03:38.159> understand<00:03:38.640> why

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and i can totally understand why

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and i can totally understand why people<00:03:39.519> are<00:03:39.599> loving<00:03:39.840> that<00:03:40.000> narrative<00:03:40.640> gary

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people are loving that narrative gary

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people are loving that narrative gary stevenson<00:03:41.760> is<00:03:42.000> an<00:03:42.319> economist<00:03:42.959> and<00:03:43.280> former

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stevenson is an economist and former

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stevenson is an economist and former trader

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i mean when you put it in the broader

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i mean when you put it in the broader context<00:03:46.799> of<00:03:46.879> what's<00:03:47.120> happened

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context of what's happened

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last year the the economics of this

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last year the the economics of this pandemic<00:03:50.080> have<00:03:50.159> been<00:03:50.239> unbelievable<00:03:50.799> right

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pandemic have been unbelievable right

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pandemic have been unbelievable right because<00:03:51.280> millions<00:03:51.599> of<00:03:51.680> people<00:03:51.840> stuck<00:03:52.080> at<00:03:52.159> home

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because millions of people stuck at home

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because millions of people stuck at home here<00:03:53.120> and<00:03:53.280> also<00:03:53.599> in<00:03:53.680> the<00:03:53.760> us<00:03:54.080> can't<00:03:54.319> work<00:03:54.799> can't

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here and also in the us can't work can't

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here and also in the us can't work can't make<00:03:55.200> an<00:03:55.360> income

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make an income

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and the stock markets have just been

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and the stock markets have just been exploding<00:03:57.920> right<00:03:58.239> tesla's<00:03:58.720> up<00:03:58.799> i<00:03:58.879> think<00:03:59.120> five

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exploding right tesla's up i think five

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exploding right tesla's up i think five times<00:03:59.760> the<00:03:59.840> u.s<00:04:00.080> stock<00:04:00.239> market<00:04:00.480> has<00:04:00.640> nearly

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times the u.s stock market has nearly

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times the u.s stock market has nearly doubled<00:04:01.280> in<00:04:01.360> the<00:04:01.439> last

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doubled in the last

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nine months which is just crazy when you

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nine months which is just crazy when you consider<00:04:04.400> the<00:04:04.480> economic<00:04:04.799> situation<00:04:05.360> right

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consider the economic situation right

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so there's a lot of people sitting at

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so there's a lot of people sitting at home<00:04:07.200> watching<00:04:07.519> the<00:04:07.680> stock<00:04:07.840> markets<00:04:08.159> going

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home watching the stock markets going

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through the roof

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they can't even work they can't make an

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they can't even work they can't make an income<00:04:10.720> it's<00:04:10.879> such<00:04:11.120> a<00:04:11.200> divergence<00:04:11.760> between

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income it's such a divergence between

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income it's such a divergence between what's<00:04:12.720> happening<00:04:12.959> in<00:04:13.040> stock<00:04:13.200> markets<00:04:13.599> and

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what's happening in stock markets and

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what's happening in stock markets and what's<00:04:13.840> happening<00:04:14.080> in<00:04:14.159> people's<00:04:14.400> lives<00:04:15.120> so

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what's happening in people's lives so

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what's happening in people's lives so you<00:04:15.439> can<00:04:15.519> see<00:04:15.760> why<00:04:15.920> they<00:04:16.000> want<00:04:16.160> to<00:04:16.320> rush<00:04:16.560> in<00:04:16.720> and

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you can see why they want to rush in and

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you can see why they want to rush in and they<00:04:17.120> want<00:04:17.280> to<00:04:17.359> take<00:04:17.519> a<00:04:17.600> piece<00:04:17.759> of<00:04:17.840> the<00:04:18.000> action

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they want to take a piece of the action

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they want to take a piece of the action but

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i think that's maybe a bit of a

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simplification and it's probably a bit

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simplification and it's probably a bit more<00:04:21.440> complicated<00:04:21.840> than<00:04:21.919> what's<00:04:22.079> happening

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more complicated than what's happening

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but it also then has combined with the

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but it also then has combined with the ability<00:04:26.560> of<00:04:26.720> people<00:04:27.040> to<00:04:27.440> talk<00:04:27.759> to<00:04:28.000> each<00:04:28.240> other

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ability of people to talk to each other

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and organize themselves and even if

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and organize themselves and even if you've<00:04:30.479> only<00:04:30.639> got<00:04:30.800> a

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you've only got a

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few dollars or pounds if you join

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few dollars or pounds if you join together<00:04:33.840> in<00:04:34.000> a<00:04:34.080> community<00:04:34.800> through

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together in a community through

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reddit you can use a very cheap trading

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reddit you can use a very cheap trading platform

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look what can happen yeah and a massive

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look what can happen yeah and a massive increase<00:04:41.919> also<00:04:42.320> in

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increase also in

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just interest in online trading

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generally that has blown up massively um

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generally that has blown up massively um in<00:04:46.800> the<00:04:46.880> us<00:04:47.199> but<00:04:47.440> also<00:04:47.840> in<00:04:47.919> this<00:04:48.080> country<00:04:48.560> in

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in the us but also in this country in

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in the us but also in this country in the<00:04:48.720> last<00:04:49.040> year<00:04:49.440> and<00:04:49.600> i<00:04:49.680> think<00:04:49.759> it's<00:04:49.919> related

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the last year and i think it's related

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the last year and i think it's related to<00:04:50.320> what<00:04:50.400> i'm<00:04:50.560> saying<00:04:50.720> you<00:04:50.800> know<00:04:50.960> people

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to what i'm saying you know people

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to what i'm saying you know people i<00:04:51.680> just<00:04:51.919> seen<00:04:52.160> that<00:04:52.400> they're<00:04:52.639> not<00:04:52.880> making

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i just seen that they're not making

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i just seen that they're not making money<00:04:54.080> from<00:04:54.240> their<00:04:54.320> regular<00:04:54.720> jobs<00:04:54.960> now<00:04:55.120> work

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money from their regular jobs now work

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money from their regular jobs now work is<00:04:55.440> not<00:04:55.520> working<00:04:55.840> for<00:04:55.919> people<00:04:56.160> so<00:04:56.320> they<00:04:56.400> want

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is not working for people so they want

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is not working for people so they want to<00:04:56.560> get<00:04:56.639> involved

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to get involved

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to get involved yeah<00:04:57.440> i<00:04:57.440> mean<00:04:57.600> this<00:04:57.840> what's<00:04:58.080> happened<00:04:58.400> in<00:04:58.479> the

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yeah i mean this what's happened in the

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yeah i mean this what's happened in the last<00:04:59.280> few<00:04:59.759> last<00:05:00.080> week<00:05:00.320> or<00:05:00.400> so<00:05:00.560> which<00:05:00.800> is

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last few last week or so which is

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last few last week or so which is it's<00:05:01.360> known<00:05:01.600> as<00:05:01.759> a<00:05:01.840> short<00:05:02.080> squeeze<00:05:02.400> people

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it's known as a short squeeze people

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it's known as a short squeeze people call<00:05:02.800> it<00:05:02.880> short<00:05:03.120> squeeze<00:05:03.600> it's<00:05:03.759> not<00:05:03.919> actually

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call it short squeeze it's not actually

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call it short squeeze it's not actually a<00:05:04.240> new<00:05:04.320> phenomenon<00:05:04.880> it's<00:05:04.960> happened<00:05:05.280> many

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a new phenomenon it's happened many

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a new phenomenon it's happened many times<00:05:05.600> before<00:05:05.840> there<00:05:06.000> was<00:05:06.080> a<00:05:06.160> massive<00:05:06.400> one<00:05:06.560> in

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times before there was a massive one in

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times before there was a massive one in the<00:05:06.800> silver<00:05:07.039> market<00:05:07.280> in<00:05:07.360> the<00:05:07.440> 80s

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the silver market in the 80s

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the silver market in the 80s it's<00:05:08.400> happened<00:05:08.639> in<00:05:08.720> commodity<00:05:09.199> markets<00:05:09.520> like

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it's happened in commodity markets like

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wheat at times but what is new

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wheat at times but what is new is<00:05:11.759> it<00:05:12.000> being<00:05:12.400> centralized<00:05:13.039> on<00:05:13.280> an<00:05:13.440> internet

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is it being centralized on an internet

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messaging board and that has sort of

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messaging board and that has sort of added<00:05:15.440> this<00:05:15.680> whole

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added this whole

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crazy element to it let's just describe

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crazy element to it let's just describe the<00:05:18.880> journey<00:05:19.280> though<00:05:19.600> i<00:05:19.680> mean<00:05:19.919> in<00:05:20.080> the<00:05:20.320> scale

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the journey though i mean in the scale

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the journey though i mean in the scale of<00:05:21.440> the<00:05:21.680> increase

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of the increase

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in the price of game stop stock

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was it a year ago under a year ago it

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was it a year ago under a year ago it was<00:05:29.120> just<00:05:29.360> over

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was just over

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three dollars a share yeah it's um

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three dollars a share yeah it's um it's<00:05:33.520> very<00:05:33.680> difficult<00:05:34.000> to<00:05:34.160> track<00:05:34.400> how<00:05:34.560> much

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it's very difficult to track how much

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it's very difficult to track how much it's<00:05:34.880> moved<00:05:35.199> because<00:05:35.440> it<00:05:35.680> moves<00:05:36.000> uh

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it's moved because it moves uh

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it's moved because it moves uh every<00:05:36.479> time<00:05:36.639> you<00:05:36.720> look<00:05:36.880> at<00:05:36.960> it<00:05:37.039> it's<00:05:37.120> a

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every time you look at it it's a

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different place i think at its peak it

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different place i think at its peak it was<00:05:39.280> up<00:05:39.440> over<00:05:39.759> 2

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was up over 2

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000 in about two weeks it was down a lot

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000 in about two weeks it was down a lot yesterday<00:05:44.000> i<00:05:44.160> think<00:05:44.320> so<00:05:44.560> it's

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yesterday i think so it's

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yesterday i think so it's not<00:05:44.960> quite<00:05:45.199> so<00:05:45.360> much<00:05:45.600> but<00:05:46.160> whatever<00:05:46.479> way<00:05:46.639> you

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not quite so much but whatever way you

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not quite so much but whatever way you look<00:05:46.880> at<00:05:47.039> it<00:05:47.360> the<00:05:47.600> scale<00:05:48.000> of<00:05:48.160> it

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look at it the scale of it

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is phenomenal i think it's opened

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is phenomenal i think it's opened people's<00:05:50.960> eyes<00:05:51.199> a<00:05:51.280> little<00:05:51.440> bit<00:05:51.680> to

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as amateur investors and the vast

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are they're all connected but it seems

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are they're all connected but it seems there's<00:06:04.160> some<00:06:04.880> very<00:06:05.199> intelligent<00:06:05.919> financial

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there's some very intelligent financial

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there's some very intelligent financial brain

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spotting the opportunity and then

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spotting the opportunity and then organizing<00:06:10.160> this

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organizing this

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huge wave of people i use this messaging

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huge wave of people i use this messaging board<00:06:13.919> sometimes

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yes there's a lot of people on there who

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yes there's a lot of people on there who um<00:06:17.280> perhaps<00:06:17.759> have<00:06:17.919> quite<00:06:18.160> a<00:06:18.240> simplistic

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um perhaps have quite a simplistic

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um perhaps have quite a simplistic understanding<00:06:19.360> i<00:06:19.600> mean<00:06:19.759> a<00:06:19.759> lot<00:06:19.919> of<00:06:20.000> people

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understanding i mean a lot of people

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understanding i mean a lot of people have<00:06:20.319> bought<00:06:20.560> into<00:06:20.720> this<00:06:20.880> passionate

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have bought into this passionate

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narrative that it's the ordinary man

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narrative that it's the ordinary man fighting<00:06:23.360> the<00:06:23.520> system<00:06:23.919> but<00:06:24.080> the<00:06:24.240> truth<00:06:24.479> is

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fighting the system but the truth is

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fighting the system but the truth is there<00:06:24.720> are<00:06:24.880> also<00:06:25.199> i'm<00:06:25.360> pretty<00:06:25.520> confident<00:06:25.919> some

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there are also i'm pretty confident some

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there are also i'm pretty confident some relatively<00:06:26.560> professional<00:06:26.960> investors<00:06:27.360> who

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relatively professional investors who

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relatively professional investors who have<00:06:27.759> uh

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started it off are they in danger up we

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started it off are they in danger up we know<00:06:30.400> what's<00:06:30.560> happened<00:06:30.720> to<00:06:30.800> the<00:06:30.880> hedge<00:06:31.120> funds

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know what's happened to the hedge funds

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know what's happened to the hedge funds some<00:06:31.680> of<00:06:31.840> them

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perhaps got burned they still seem to be

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perhaps got burned they still seem to be in<00:06:34.880> existence<00:06:35.440> and

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in existence and

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one imagines they'll find a way to fight

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one imagines they'll find a way to fight back<00:06:37.680> and<00:06:37.840> it's<00:06:38.000> on<00:06:38.160> that<00:06:38.400> note

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back and it's on that note

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back and it's on that note i<00:06:39.360> mean<00:06:39.520> i<00:06:39.680> met<00:06:39.919> a<00:06:40.080> guy<00:06:40.400> yesterday<00:06:41.759> who<00:06:41.919> told<00:06:42.080> me

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i mean i met a guy yesterday who told me

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i mean i met a guy yesterday who told me he<00:06:42.479> borrowed<00:06:42.960> 300<00:06:43.600> pounds<00:06:44.000> to<00:06:44.160> buy<00:06:44.400> less<00:06:44.639> than

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he borrowed 300 pounds to buy less than

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one share

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in gamestop and was um i was

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in gamestop and was um i was recommending<00:06:48.800> me<00:06:48.960> to<00:06:49.120> get<00:06:49.280> on<00:06:49.520> isn't<00:06:49.680> that<00:06:49.840> the

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recommending me to get on isn't that the

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recommending me to get on isn't that the old<00:06:50.240> adage<00:06:50.479> from<00:06:50.639> the<00:06:50.800> wall<00:06:51.039> street<00:06:51.440> crash

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old adage from the wall street crash

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old adage from the wall street crash that<00:06:52.240> uh

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that uh

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when the shoeshine person tells you to

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buy a stock

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now is the time to get out yeah you know

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now is the time to get out yeah you know what<00:06:58.800> dom<00:06:59.039> i'm<00:06:59.199> really<00:06:59.440> glad<00:06:59.680> you've

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what dom i'm really glad you've

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asked that because you know i think this

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asked that because you know i think this is<00:07:02.319> kind<00:07:02.479> of<00:07:02.639> a<00:07:02.960> it's<00:07:03.120> a<00:07:03.280> good<00:07:03.440> news<00:07:03.680> story<00:07:03.919> for

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is kind of a it's a good news story for

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is kind of a it's a good news story for a lot<00:07:04.160> of<00:07:04.240> people<00:07:04.400> they're<00:07:04.479> happy<00:07:04.720> to<00:07:04.800> see<00:07:04.960> the

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a lot of people they're happy to see the

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a lot of people they're happy to see the ordinary<00:07:05.599> man<00:07:05.840> give<00:07:06.000> it<00:07:06.080> to<00:07:06.160> wall<00:07:06.400> street<00:07:06.800> but

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ordinary man give it to wall street but

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ordinary man give it to wall street but there<00:07:08.160> are<00:07:08.319> real<00:07:08.800> risks<00:07:09.199> here<00:07:10.000> um<00:07:10.240> the<00:07:10.400> stock

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there are real risks here um the stock

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there are real risks here um the stock has<00:07:10.720> gone<00:07:10.880> up<00:07:11.120> massively

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has gone up massively

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the truth is you know one month down the

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the truth is you know one month down the line<00:07:13.520> or<00:07:13.680> quite<00:07:13.919> possibly<00:07:14.560> sooner

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line or quite possibly sooner

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is almost certain this stock will fall a

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is almost certain this stock will fall a lot<00:07:18.400> and

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my concern is who's going to be holding

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it then because this may have been

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people who have good knowledge good

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understanding but now there's a lot of

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understanding but now there's a lot of people<00:07:26.960> rushing<00:07:27.280> in<00:07:27.520> who

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people rushing in who

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understanding of financial markets

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other financial instruments has become

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easier and cheaper for

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ordinary people and i think we we

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ordinary people and i think we we mentioned<00:07:38.160> this<00:07:38.479> platform<00:07:38.960> robin<00:07:39.360> hood

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mentioned this platform robin hood

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um you can put pennies if you like into

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um you can put pennies if you like into into

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shares it's very easy you know what i'm

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shares it's very easy you know what i'm really<00:07:47.680> really<00:07:47.840> conflicted<00:07:48.319> on<00:07:48.400> this<00:07:48.560> i've

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really really conflicted on this i've

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really really conflicted on this i've got<00:07:48.879> strong

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feelings in both directions because i

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feelings in both directions because i come<00:07:51.599> from<00:07:51.759> quite<00:07:51.919> a<00:07:52.000> poor<00:07:52.160> background<00:07:52.560> but<00:07:52.720> i

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come from quite a poor background but i

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come from quite a poor background but i made<00:07:52.960> my<00:07:53.120> money<00:07:53.280> in<00:07:53.360> the<00:07:53.520> sea

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i can see a world in which ordinary

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people's wages are not going up and yet

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people's wages are not going up and yet the<00:07:57.919> stock<00:07:58.080> market<00:07:58.319> has<00:07:58.400> gone<00:07:58.560> up<00:07:58.639> three<00:07:58.800> or

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the stock market has gone up three or

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four times since 2008 so i can see this

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four times since 2008 so i can see this divergence<00:08:01.759> between

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wealthier people and what's happening to ordinary<00:08:06.319> people<00:08:06.639> and<00:08:06.800> i<00:08:06.879> can<00:08:07.039> totally

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ordinary people and i can totally

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ordinary people and i can totally understand

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ordinary people want to get involved and

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they don't like this unequal system

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where the rich seem to get richer and

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where the rich seem to get richer and richer<00:08:13.280> and<00:08:13.440> ordinary<00:08:13.840> people's<00:08:14.240> lives

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richer and ordinary people's lives

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richer and ordinary people's lives aren't<00:08:14.720> improving

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aren't improving

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i can see the ability to invest in stock

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i can see the ability to invest in stock markets

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could be potential for these guys to

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but the reality of the situation is a

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but the reality of the situation is a lot<00:08:24.960> of<00:08:25.039> these<00:08:25.199> people<00:08:25.440> are<00:08:25.599> not<00:08:25.840> getting

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lot of these people are not getting

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adequate advice they're rushing into

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adequate advice they're rushing into things<00:08:28.960> like<00:08:29.199> ig<00:08:29.520> index<00:08:29.840> online<00:08:30.160> trading

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things like ig index online trading

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things like ig index online trading platforms<00:08:30.960> and<00:08:31.039> the<00:08:31.199> truth<00:08:31.520> is

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platforms and the truth is

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platforms and the truth is 75<00:08:32.399> percent<00:08:32.719> of<00:08:32.800> accounts<00:08:33.200> on<00:08:33.440> ig<00:08:33.760> index<00:08:34.320> lose

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75 percent of accounts on ig index lose

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75 percent of accounts on ig index lose money

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you know that's the majority of accounts

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it's very easy to get

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sucked into these platforms convince

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yourself you're you know

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the next wolf of wall street start

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ultimately if you don't know what you're

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doing it's very much akin to gambling

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doing it's very much akin to gambling and<00:08:47.920> you<00:08:48.000> know

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and you know

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gambling is a dangerous thing it can be

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addictive it can destroy people's lives

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addictive it can destroy people's lives and<00:08:52.240> families<00:08:52.560> you<00:08:52.640> know<00:08:52.880> and

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and families you know and

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and families you know and like<00:08:54.000> i<00:08:54.080> say<00:08:54.240> i<00:08:54.399> understand<00:08:54.880> people<00:08:55.120> want<00:08:55.200> to

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like i say i understand people want to

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like i say i understand people want to be<00:08:55.440> involved<00:08:56.000> people<00:08:56.320> see<00:08:56.640> wealthy<00:08:57.040> people

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be involved people see wealthy people

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be involved people see wealthy people making<00:08:57.440> money<00:08:57.680> on<00:08:57.839> tesla<00:08:58.320> bitcoin<00:08:58.959> gamestop

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making money on tesla bitcoin gamestop

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they want a piece of action as well but

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they want a piece of action as well but i<00:09:02.080> would<00:09:02.320> just

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i would just

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again that note of caution please be

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again that note of caution please be careful

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never gamble more than you are able or

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never gamble more than you are able or willing<00:09:08.320> to<00:09:08.480> lose<00:09:08.800> and<00:09:08.880> it<00:09:09.040> is<00:09:09.200> dangerous

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willing to lose and it is dangerous

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willing to lose and it is dangerous you<00:09:10.160> know<00:09:10.240> we<00:09:10.640> talk<00:09:10.800> about<00:09:11.120> the<00:09:11.279> the<00:09:11.440> trading

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you know we talk about the the trading

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you know we talk about the the trading platform<00:09:12.399> robin<00:09:12.720> hood<00:09:12.959> it's

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platform robin hood it's

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platform robin hood it's it's<00:09:13.440> suspended<00:09:14.080> dealing<00:09:14.480> in<00:09:14.880> gamestop<00:09:15.440> and<00:09:15.519> a

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it's suspended dealing in gamestop and a

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it's suspended dealing in gamestop and a lot<00:09:15.760> of<00:09:15.839> people<00:09:16.240> then<00:09:16.560> felt<00:09:16.880> ah<00:09:17.200> the<00:09:17.360> system<00:09:17.760> is

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lot of people then felt ah the system is

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lot of people then felt ah the system is still<00:09:19.040> rigged<00:09:19.600> against<00:09:20.160> us<00:09:20.320> there's<00:09:20.480> an

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still rigged against us there's an

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still rigged against us there's an element<00:09:20.959> of<00:09:21.040> that<00:09:21.279> although<00:09:21.519> i<00:09:21.600> know<00:09:21.839> that

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element of that although i know that

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element of that although i know that robin<00:09:22.560> hood<00:09:22.800> is<00:09:22.880> saying<00:09:23.120> it<00:09:23.200> was<00:09:23.360> simply<00:09:23.680> a<00:09:23.760> uh

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robin hood is saying it was simply a uh

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robin hood is saying it was simply a uh an<00:09:24.399> issue<00:09:24.640> of<00:09:24.720> liquidity<00:09:25.360> wasn't<00:09:25.680> it<00:09:25.839> in<00:09:25.920> that

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an issue of liquidity wasn't it in that

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an issue of liquidity wasn't it in that they<00:09:26.240> had<00:09:26.399> to

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they had to

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pay for the shares effectively before

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the money was coming into their accounts

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the money was coming into their accounts and<00:09:30.160> there<00:09:30.240> was<00:09:30.320> so<00:09:30.480> much<00:09:30.720> money<00:09:30.959> going<00:09:31.200> around

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and there was so much money going around

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and there was so much money going around that<00:09:31.680> uh

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that uh

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their their liquidity was a problem you

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their their liquidity was a problem you know<00:09:35.279> i<00:09:35.600> would<00:09:35.760> love<00:09:35.920> to<00:09:36.080> have<00:09:36.160> been<00:09:36.320> a<00:09:36.399> fly<00:09:36.640> on

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know i would love to have been a fly on

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know i would love to have been a fly on the<00:09:36.880> wall<00:09:37.200> in<00:09:37.360> um

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the wall in um

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the wall in um the<00:09:38.000> offices<00:09:38.320> of<00:09:38.399> robin<00:09:38.640> hood<00:09:38.800> when<00:09:38.880> that

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the offices of robin hood when that

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the offices of robin hood when that decision<00:09:39.279> was<00:09:39.440> made<00:09:39.680> to<00:09:39.760> stop<00:09:39.920> the<00:09:40.080> trading

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decision was made to stop the trading

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decision was made to stop the trading because

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it has caused a absolute storm on the

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it has caused a absolute storm on the internet

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and uh there's a lot of you could call

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and uh there's a lot of you could call them<00:09:46.000> conspiracy<00:09:46.480> theories<00:09:46.800> going<00:09:47.040> around

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them conspiracy theories going around

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about powerful wall street figures being

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connected to powerful political figures

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um whether that's true or not i honestly

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um whether that's true or not i honestly i<00:09:52.640> couldn't<00:09:52.959> comment<00:09:53.440> i'm<00:09:53.600> sure

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i couldn't comment i'm sure

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i couldn't comment i'm sure robin<00:09:54.399> hood<00:09:54.640> themselves<00:09:54.959> would<00:09:55.120> say<00:09:55.360> we're

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robin hood themselves would say we're

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robin hood themselves would say we're trying<00:09:55.760> to<00:09:55.839> protect<00:09:56.160> our<00:09:56.240> platform<00:09:56.560> we're

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trying to protect our platform we're

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trying to protect our platform we're trying<00:09:56.880> to<00:09:56.959> protect<00:09:57.279> our<00:09:57.360> customers<00:09:57.760> and<00:09:57.839> like

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trying to protect our customers and like

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trying to protect our customers and like i've<00:09:58.160> said<00:09:58.320> there<00:09:58.480> are<00:09:58.640> real<00:09:58.880> risks<00:09:59.120> to

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i've said there are real risks to

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i've said there are real risks to customers

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customers

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but i can totally understand the traders

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but i can totally understand the traders you<00:10:01.760> know<00:10:02.560> they've<00:10:02.800> got<00:10:02.959> a<00:10:03.040> lot<00:10:03.120> of<00:10:03.200> money<00:10:03.440> here

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you know they've got a lot of money here

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you know they've got a lot of money here they've<00:10:03.760> got<00:10:03.839> a<00:10:03.920> lot<00:10:04.000> of<00:10:04.160> risky<00:10:04.560> they<00:10:04.720> feel

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they've got a lot of risky they feel

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like they're fighting the power and then

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like they're fighting the power and then suddenly

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suddenly

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we were in a situation where the

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we were in a situation where the ordinary<00:10:08.480> traders<00:10:08.720> were<00:10:08.880> blocked<00:10:09.040> from

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ordinary traders were blocked from

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ordinary traders were blocked from trading

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trading

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whereas wall street still had access so

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whereas wall street still had access so you<00:10:11.839> know<00:10:12.800> i<00:10:12.959> can<00:10:13.200> understand<00:10:13.519> that<00:10:13.680> anger<00:10:13.920> i

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you know i can understand that anger i

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you know i can understand that anger i can<00:10:14.079> understand<00:10:14.480> that<00:10:14.560> frustration<00:10:15.120> but<00:10:15.360> um

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can understand that frustration but um

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can understand that frustration but um i<00:10:16.320> couldn't<00:10:16.560> tell<00:10:16.720> you<00:10:16.800> for<00:10:16.959> sure<00:10:17.440> what<00:10:17.600> the

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i couldn't tell you for sure what the

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i couldn't tell you for sure what the real<00:10:17.920> reason<00:10:18.240> why<00:10:18.480> him<00:10:18.640> probably<00:10:18.880> had<00:10:19.040> to<00:10:19.120> stop

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real reason why him probably had to stop

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real reason why him probably had to stop and<00:10:19.680> uh<00:10:20.079> a<00:10:20.160> lot<00:10:20.240> of<00:10:20.399> uk<00:10:20.640> companies<00:10:20.959> have<00:10:21.120> also

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and uh a lot of uk companies have also

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and uh a lot of uk companies have also banned<00:10:21.519> trading<00:10:21.760> now<00:10:21.920> as<00:10:22.000> well<00:10:22.079> in<00:10:22.160> the<00:10:22.240> last

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banned trading now as well in the last

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banned trading now as well in the last few<00:10:22.560> days

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after this what happened on wall street

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the moment they realized their

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investments were set to lose billions

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gamestop's roller coaster stock market

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ride may have come to an

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end this week share prices plummeted by

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more than 58

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on tuesday and there are signs other

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on tuesday and there are signs other popular<00:10:42.800> targets<00:10:43.279> like<00:10:43.519> blackberry<00:10:44.160> and<00:10:44.320> amc

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popular targets like blackberry and amc

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popular targets like blackberry and amc entertainment<00:10:45.440> have<00:10:45.600> also

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entertainment have also

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passed their peak but with technology

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passed their peak but with technology placing<00:10:49.120> the<00:10:49.279> power<00:10:49.760> of<00:10:49.839> the<00:10:50.079> stock<00:10:50.480> market<00:10:50.880> in

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placing the power of the stock market in

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placing the power of the stock market in people's

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pockets this may just be a sign of

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pockets this may just be a sign of things<00:10:54.880> to<00:10:55.120> come

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i was a professional trader working in

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the city for a number of years

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and you know i'm pretty sure if i were

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and you know i'm pretty sure if i were to<00:11:02.320> have<00:11:02.480> orchestrated<00:11:02.880> something<00:11:03.120> like<00:11:03.279> this

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to have orchestrated something like this

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to have orchestrated something like this when<00:11:03.519> i<00:11:03.600> was<00:11:03.760> working<00:11:04.079> for<00:11:04.240> an<00:11:04.320> investment

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when i was working for an investment

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when i was working for an investment bank

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it would have been illegal it would be

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it would have been illegal it would be market<00:11:07.040> manipulation<00:11:07.839> the<00:11:08.000> question<00:11:08.320> here<00:11:08.480> is

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market manipulation the question here is

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market manipulation the question here is when<00:11:08.800> it's<00:11:08.959> done<00:11:09.200> by<00:11:09.440> a<00:11:09.519> million<00:11:10.000> or

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when it's done by a million or

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i don't know how many people it could be

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millions now across the world doing it

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millions now across the world doing it independently

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independently

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how do you regulate that you know is it

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how do you regulate that you know is it market<00:11:18.240> manipulation<00:11:18.880> who<00:11:19.040> do<00:11:19.200> you<00:11:19.360> punish

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market manipulation who do you punish

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market manipulation who do you punish there's<00:11:20.160> a<00:11:20.240> big<00:11:20.399> question<00:11:20.720> obviously<00:11:21.040> public

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there's a big question obviously public

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there's a big question obviously public opinion<00:11:21.680> will<00:11:21.760> be<00:11:21.920> against<00:11:22.160> regulation

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opinion will be against regulation

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because they feel it's ordinary people

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because they feel it's ordinary people but

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but

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i think the big question is what happens

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one month down the line when this where

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one month down the line when this where if<00:11:28.000> this<00:11:28.160> falls<00:11:28.399> 99

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if this falls 99

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and a lot of ordinary people you know

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and a lot of ordinary people you know hairdressers<00:11:31.920> taxi<00:11:32.320> drivers

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hairdressers taxi drivers

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are burnt on this and then you know it's

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are burnt on this and then you know it's easy

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at the top of the bubble to say don't

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at the top of the bubble to say don't regulate<00:11:37.760> it<00:11:37.920> but<00:11:38.079> when<00:11:38.240> the<00:11:38.320> bubble<00:11:38.640> bursts<00:11:38.959> i

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regulate it but when the bubble bursts i

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regulate it but when the bubble bursts i think<00:11:39.200> people

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think people

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might feel differently so i mean i know

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might feel differently so i mean i know i've<00:11:41.760> said<00:11:41.839> it<00:11:42.000> a<00:11:42.000> million<00:11:42.240> times<00:11:42.560> but

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i've said it a million times but

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i've said it a million times but the<00:11:43.360> message<00:11:43.760> is<00:11:44.160> be<00:11:44.399> careful<00:11:44.800> but<00:11:44.959> from<00:11:45.040> what

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the message is be careful but from what

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the message is be careful but from what you're<00:11:45.360> saying<00:11:45.600> gary<00:11:46.079> it<00:11:46.240> seems<00:11:46.560> to<00:11:46.720> me<00:11:46.880> okay

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you're saying gary it seems to me okay

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you're saying gary it seems to me okay the<00:11:47.360> technology<00:11:48.079> is<00:11:48.240> well<00:11:48.560> advanced<00:11:48.959> but<00:11:49.120> it

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the technology is well advanced but it

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the technology is well advanced but it seems<00:11:49.440> to<00:11:49.600> me

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seems to me

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their echo here's back to time

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their echo here's back to time immemorial<00:11:53.360> well<00:11:53.519> perhaps<00:11:53.920> not<00:11:54.160> that<00:11:54.399> far

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immemorial well perhaps not that far

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immemorial well perhaps not that far back<00:11:54.959> but<00:11:55.120> certainly<00:11:55.519> ever<00:11:55.680> since

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back but certainly ever since

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back but certainly ever since um<00:11:56.720> humans<00:11:57.200> started<00:11:57.839> trading<00:11:58.480> and<00:11:58.720> dealing

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um humans started trading and dealing

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um humans started trading and dealing with<00:11:59.279> each<00:11:59.519> other

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with each other

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what do we have south sea bubbles black

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what do we have south sea bubbles black tulips<00:12:02.959> uh

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tulips uh

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you know things like that ponzi schemes

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you know things like that ponzi schemes yeah<00:12:07.040> you<00:12:07.200> know<00:12:07.279> what<00:12:07.440> i<00:12:07.519> think<00:12:08.000> is

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yeah you know what i think is

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interesting here i think this relates to

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that governments have dealt with the

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that governments have dealt with the coveted<00:12:13.279> crisis<00:12:13.920> there's<00:12:14.160> been<00:12:14.320> a<00:12:14.399> huge

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coveted crisis there's been a huge

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coveted crisis there's been a huge amount<00:12:14.800> of<00:12:14.880> spending<00:12:15.279> last<00:12:15.519> year

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amount of spending last year

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now normally in a crisis governments

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now normally in a crisis governments would<00:12:18.480> raise<00:12:18.720> taxation<00:12:19.200> on<00:12:19.279> the<00:12:19.360> richest<00:12:19.839> or

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would raise taxation on the richest or

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would raise taxation on the richest or they<00:12:20.000> might<00:12:20.240> borrow<00:12:20.480> a<00:12:20.560> lot<00:12:20.639> of<00:12:20.800> money

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they might borrow a lot of money

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for example to fund wars things like

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for example to fund wars things like that<00:12:22.880> but<00:12:23.040> what<00:12:23.200> happened<00:12:23.440> last<00:12:23.600> year<00:12:23.760> was

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that but what happened last year was

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that but what happened last year was really<00:12:24.079> phenomenal

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really phenomenal

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the government of the uk it spent an

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the government of the uk it spent an extra<00:12:26.880> 450<00:12:27.519> billion<00:12:27.839> pounds

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extra 450 billion pounds

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extra 450 billion pounds that's<00:12:28.639> about<00:12:28.880> 10<00:12:29.120> 000<00:12:29.360> pounds<00:12:29.600> per<00:12:29.839> adult<00:12:30.079> in

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that's about 10 000 pounds per adult in

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that's about 10 000 pounds per adult in the<00:12:30.240> country<00:12:31.279> and

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the country and

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the bank of england printed the exact

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the bank of england printed the exact same<00:12:33.920> amount<00:12:34.399> and<00:12:34.480> lent<00:12:34.720> it<00:12:34.800> to<00:12:34.880> the

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same amount and lent it to the

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same amount and lent it to the government<00:12:35.440> which<00:12:35.680> means<00:12:35.920> that<00:12:36.079> essentially

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government which means that essentially

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government which means that essentially they've<00:12:37.120> dealt<00:12:37.360> with<00:12:37.519> this<00:12:37.680> crisis<00:12:38.320> purely<00:12:38.800> by

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they've dealt with this crisis purely by

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they've dealt with this crisis purely by printing

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printing

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printing 450<00:12:40.639> billion<00:12:40.959> pounds<00:12:41.360> now<00:12:42.399> that<00:12:42.639> might<00:12:42.880> seem

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450 billion pounds now that might seem

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450 billion pounds now that might seem like<00:12:43.279> an<00:12:43.440> amazing<00:12:43.680> way<00:12:43.839> of<00:12:43.920> dealing<00:12:44.160> with<00:12:44.240> the

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like an amazing way of dealing with the

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like an amazing way of dealing with the crisis<00:12:44.560> because<00:12:44.720> nobody<00:12:45.040> has<00:12:45.120> to<00:12:45.279> pay<00:12:45.440> for<00:12:45.600> it

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crisis because nobody has to pay for it

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crisis because nobody has to pay for it but<00:12:46.240> the<00:12:46.320> net<00:12:46.560> result<00:12:46.959> is<00:12:47.519> you<00:12:47.760> pour<00:12:48.000> a<00:12:48.160> huge

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but the net result is you pour a huge

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but the net result is you pour a huge amount<00:12:48.639> of<00:12:48.800> extra<00:12:49.040> money

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amount of extra money

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into society and that has a lot of

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into society and that has a lot of problems<00:12:52.399> if<00:12:52.560> you<00:12:52.639> look<00:12:52.800> at<00:12:52.880> where<00:12:53.040> the

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problems if you look at where the

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problems if you look at where the money's<00:12:53.440> end<00:12:53.680> up

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money's end up

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money's end up ended<00:12:54.240> up<00:12:54.480> you<00:12:54.639> can<00:12:54.720> see<00:12:54.959> most<00:12:55.200> of<00:12:55.279> it<00:12:55.360> has

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ended up you can see most of it has

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ended up you can see most of it has ended<00:12:55.680> up<00:12:55.760> with<00:12:55.839> richer<00:12:56.160> people

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ended up with richer people

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so that increases inequality and

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so that increases inequality and inevitably<00:12:59.839> it<00:13:00.000> creates

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inevitably it creates

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inevitably it creates bubbles<00:13:00.880> in<00:13:01.040> asset<00:13:01.279> markets<00:13:01.680> because<00:13:01.839> these

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bubbles in asset markets because these

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bubbles in asset markets because these people<00:13:02.240> are<00:13:02.320> going<00:13:02.399> to<00:13:02.560> invest<00:13:02.880> them<00:13:03.120> my<00:13:03.279> big

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people are going to invest them my big

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people are going to invest them my big concern<00:13:03.760> is<00:13:03.920> that<00:13:04.000> contagious<00:13:04.480> into<00:13:04.639> the<00:13:04.720> uk

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concern is that contagious into the uk

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concern is that contagious into the uk housing<00:13:05.279> market

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housing market

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and we've seen house prices rocketing up

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and we've seen house prices rocketing up in<00:13:08.160> the<00:13:08.240> middle<00:13:08.480> of<00:13:08.560> the<00:13:08.720> deepest<00:13:09.040> recession

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in the middle of the deepest recession

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in the middle of the deepest recession ever

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ever

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my concern is what happens if house

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my concern is what happens if house prices<00:13:12.079> double<00:13:12.399> again<00:13:12.800> which<00:13:13.040> ultimately<00:13:13.440> is

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prices double again which ultimately is

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prices double again which ultimately is what<00:13:13.600> happened<00:13:13.839> after<00:13:14.000> 2008<00:13:14.639> and<00:13:14.720> what<00:13:14.800> does

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what happened after 2008 and what does

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what happened after 2008 and what does that<00:13:15.040> mean<00:13:15.279> for

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that mean for

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that mean for poorer<00:13:16.079> families<00:13:16.480> trying<00:13:16.639> to<00:13:16.720> get<00:13:16.880> onto<00:13:17.040> the

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poorer families trying to get onto the

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poorer families trying to get onto the housing<00:13:17.360> ladder<00:13:17.839> basically<00:13:18.399> if<00:13:18.560> you<00:13:18.639> try<00:13:18.800> and

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housing ladder basically if you try and

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housing ladder basically if you try and fix<00:13:19.120> an<00:13:19.200> inequality<00:13:19.760> crisis<00:13:20.160> by<00:13:20.320> printing

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fix an inequality crisis by printing

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fix an inequality crisis by printing money<00:13:20.880> and<00:13:20.959> giving<00:13:21.200> it<00:13:21.279> to<00:13:21.360> the<00:13:21.519> rich

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money and giving it to the rich

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money and giving it to the rich you<00:13:22.160> can't<00:13:22.320> be<00:13:22.480> surprised<00:13:22.800> when<00:13:22.959> that

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you can't be surprised when that

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you can't be surprised when that inequality<00:13:23.519> crisis<00:13:23.920> gets<00:13:24.160> worse<00:13:24.639> we<00:13:24.800> need<00:13:24.959> to

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inequality crisis gets worse we need to

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inequality crisis gets worse we need to start<00:13:25.200> making<00:13:25.440> the<00:13:25.519> richest<00:13:25.839> people<00:13:26.160> actually

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start making the richest people actually

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contribute to fixing and paying towards

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contribute to fixing and paying towards these<00:13:28.880> crises<00:13:29.279> rather<00:13:29.519> than<00:13:29.680> just<00:13:29.760> profiting

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these crises rather than just profiting

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these crises rather than just profiting from<00:13:30.320> them<00:13:32.839> clearly

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well that's it for this episode of the

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well that's it for this episode of the sky<00:13:39.680> news<00:13:39.839> daily<00:13:40.160> podcast<00:13:40.720> my<00:13:40.880> thanks<00:13:41.120> to<00:13:41.279> gary

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sky news daily podcast my thanks to gary

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sky news daily podcast my thanks to gary stevenson

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