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GAMESTOP: A Simple Summary - Gary on The Listen Evening Standard Podcast with David Marsland

February 02, 2021
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now the us retailer gamestops christmas

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now the us retailer gamestops christmas commercial

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commercial

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had an awful lot of screaming in it i

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had an awful lot of screaming in it i think<00:00:08.639> they're<00:00:08.880> really<00:00:14.920> gonna

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and now it's the cause of screaming on

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and now it's the cause of screaming on wall<00:00:26.080> street<00:00:26.560> the<00:00:26.720> struggling<00:00:27.199> company

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wall street the struggling company

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wall street the struggling company shares<00:00:28.160> suddenly<00:00:28.640> rocketed

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shares suddenly rocketed

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shares suddenly rocketed not<00:00:29.840> because<00:00:30.160> it's<00:00:30.320> doing<00:00:30.640> well<00:00:31.119> despite<00:00:31.599> the

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not because it's doing well despite the

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not because it's doing well despite the advert<00:00:32.079> it<00:00:32.239> really<00:00:32.559> isn't

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advert it really isn't

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advert it really isn't but<00:00:33.360> because<00:00:33.680> members<00:00:34.000> of<00:00:34.160> a<00:00:34.239> reddit<00:00:34.719> message

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but because members of a reddit message

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but because members of a reddit message board<00:00:35.440> apparently<00:00:35.920> decided<00:00:36.480> to<00:00:36.640> teach

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board apparently decided to teach

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board apparently decided to teach investment<00:00:37.680> banking<00:00:38.239> a<00:00:38.399> lesson<00:00:39.440> now<00:00:39.680> they're

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investment banking a lesson now they're

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investment banking a lesson now they're screaming<00:00:40.399> on<00:00:40.559> all<00:00:40.719> sides<00:00:41.120> as<00:00:41.280> some<00:00:41.520> say<00:00:41.680> laws

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screaming on all sides as some say laws

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screaming on all sides as some say laws are<00:00:42.079> being<00:00:42.399> broken

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are being broken

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are being broken others<00:00:43.120> say<00:00:43.360> no<00:00:43.520> one's<00:00:43.760> done<00:00:44.000> anything<00:00:44.480> wrong

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others say no one's done anything wrong

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others say no one's done anything wrong regulators<00:00:45.600> may<00:00:45.760> be<00:00:45.920> called<00:00:46.239> in

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regulators may be called in

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regulators may be called in and<00:00:46.960> suddenly<00:00:47.360> everyone's<00:00:47.840> a<00:00:47.920> stock<00:00:48.239> market

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and suddenly everyone's a stock market

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and suddenly everyone's a stock market expert<00:00:49.200> well<00:00:49.440> we've<00:00:49.680> got<00:00:49.920> a<00:00:50.079> real<00:00:50.399> one

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expert well we've got a real one

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expert well we've got a real one gary<00:00:51.280> stevenson<00:00:51.760> made<00:00:52.079> so<00:00:52.239> much<00:00:52.480> money

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gary stevenson made so much money

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gary stevenson made so much money trading<00:00:53.039> in<00:00:53.120> london<00:00:53.440> he<00:00:53.600> retired<00:00:54.160> at<00:00:54.320> 27

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trading in london he retired at 27

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trading in london he retired at 27 now<00:00:55.440> he's<00:00:55.600> an<00:00:55.760> economist<00:00:56.320> who<00:00:56.559> specializes<00:00:57.440> in

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now he's an economist who specializes in

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now he's an economist who specializes in examining<00:00:58.320> inequality

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examining inequality

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examining inequality and<00:00:59.680> he<00:00:59.920> thinks<00:01:00.320> that's<00:01:00.559> what's<00:01:00.879> been<00:01:01.039> exposed

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and he thinks that's what's been exposed

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and he thinks that's what's been exposed here<00:01:01.760> he's<00:01:02.000> with<00:01:02.079> me<00:01:02.239> now<00:01:02.559> gary

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here he's with me now gary

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here he's with me now gary you've<00:01:03.359> probably<00:01:03.680> answered<00:01:04.000> this<00:01:04.239> question<00:01:04.640> a

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you've probably answered this question a

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you've probably answered this question a lot<00:01:04.960> over<00:01:05.199> the<00:01:05.280> last<00:01:05.519> few<00:01:05.760> days<00:01:06.000> but<00:01:06.240> can<00:01:06.400> you

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lot over the last few days but can you

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lot over the last few days but can you explain<00:01:07.200> as<00:01:07.439> simply<00:01:07.920> as<00:01:08.159> possible

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explain as simply as possible

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explain as simply as possible what<00:01:09.680> happened<00:01:10.320> with<00:01:10.560> gabe<00:01:10.799> stop<00:01:11.520> yeah<00:01:11.680> that's

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what happened with gabe stop yeah that's

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what happened with gabe stop yeah that's no<00:01:12.000> problem<00:01:12.240> at<00:01:12.320> all<00:01:12.479> david<00:01:12.720> that's<00:01:12.960> the

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no problem at all david that's the

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no problem at all david that's the question<00:01:13.280> that<00:01:13.439> everybody<00:01:13.840> wants<00:01:14.080> to<00:01:14.159> know

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question that everybody wants to know

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question that everybody wants to know right<00:01:14.640> now<00:01:14.799> okay

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right now okay

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right now okay so<00:01:15.600> let's<00:01:15.840> keep<00:01:16.000> it<00:01:16.080> nice<00:01:16.240> and<00:01:16.320> simple<00:01:16.640> what<00:01:16.799> is

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so let's keep it nice and simple what is

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so let's keep it nice and simple what is short<00:01:17.119> selling<00:01:18.000> short<00:01:18.240> selling<00:01:18.560> is<00:01:18.640> a<00:01:18.720> way

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short selling short selling is a way

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short selling short selling is a way that<00:01:18.960> you<00:01:19.040> can<00:01:19.200> make<00:01:19.360> money<00:01:19.600> from<00:01:19.759> the<00:01:19.840> price

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that you can make money from the price

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that you can make money from the price of<00:01:20.159> a<00:01:20.240> stock<00:01:20.560> going

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of a stock going

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down now if you think the price of a

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down now if you think the price of a stock<00:01:23.040> is<00:01:23.119> going<00:01:23.280> to<00:01:23.360> go<00:01:23.520> up<00:01:23.840> it's<00:01:24.000> easy<00:01:24.320> you<00:01:24.479> go

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stock is going to go up it's easy you go

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stock is going to go up it's easy you go out<00:01:24.880> you<00:01:24.960> buy<00:01:25.119> the<00:01:25.280> stock<00:01:25.600> it<00:01:25.759> goes<00:01:26.000> up<00:01:26.159> you

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out you buy the stock it goes up you

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out you buy the stock it goes up you sell<00:01:26.560> it

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sell it

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but if it's going to go down what do you

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but if it's going to go down what do you do<00:01:28.640> because<00:01:28.880> you<00:01:28.960> can't<00:01:29.280> sell<00:01:29.520> it<00:01:29.680> if<00:01:29.759> you

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do because you can't sell it if you

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do because you can't sell it if you don't

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don't

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have it the way it works is you find

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have it the way it works is you find someone<00:01:32.720> who<00:01:32.880> does<00:01:33.040> have<00:01:33.280> it

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someone who does have it

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someone who does have it you<00:01:33.680> borrow<00:01:34.000> it<00:01:34.240> say<00:01:35.040> for<00:01:35.200> a<00:01:35.280> week<00:01:35.680> for<00:01:35.840> example

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you borrow it say for a week for example

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you borrow it say for a week for example the<00:01:36.479> way<00:01:36.640> you<00:01:36.720> might<00:01:36.960> borrow<00:01:37.119> a<00:01:37.200> library<00:01:37.520> book

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the way you might borrow a library book

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the way you might borrow a library book and<00:01:38.240> then<00:01:38.479> you<00:01:38.720> sell<00:01:38.960> it<00:01:39.360> and<00:01:39.439> then<00:01:39.680> you<00:01:39.840> hope

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and then you sell it and then you hope

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and then you sell it and then you hope to<00:01:40.240> buy<00:01:40.400> it<00:01:40.479> back<00:01:40.880> within<00:01:41.200> the<00:01:41.360> week

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to buy it back within the week

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to buy it back within the week you<00:01:42.000> buy<00:01:42.159> it<00:01:42.240> for<00:01:42.320> a<00:01:42.399> lower<00:01:42.640> price<00:01:42.799> and<00:01:42.960> you

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you buy it for a lower price and you

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you buy it for a lower price and you sold<00:01:43.200> it<00:01:43.280> and<00:01:43.360> you<00:01:43.439> make<00:01:43.600> your<00:01:43.680> profit<00:01:44.000> that's

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sold it and you make your profit that's

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sold it and you make your profit that's how<00:01:44.320> it<00:01:44.399> works<00:01:44.640> short<00:01:44.880> selling<00:01:45.119> is<00:01:45.280> you<00:01:45.360> borrow

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how it works short selling is you borrow

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how it works short selling is you borrow it

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you sell it you buy it back later

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you sell it you buy it back later hopefully<00:01:48.240> for<00:01:48.399> cheaper<00:01:48.799> and<00:01:48.880> that's<00:01:49.119> what's

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hopefully for cheaper and that's what's

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hopefully for cheaper and that's what's been<00:01:49.520> happening<00:01:49.840> with<00:01:50.000> gamestop<00:01:50.479> which<00:01:50.720> is<00:01:50.880> a

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been happening with gamestop which is a

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been happening with gamestop which is a company<00:01:51.360> that<00:01:51.600> a<00:01:51.680> lot<00:01:51.920> of<00:01:52.079> investors<00:01:52.799> don't

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company that a lot of investors don't

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company that a lot of investors don't think<00:01:53.920> will<00:01:54.159> perhaps<00:01:54.560> even<00:01:54.799> survive<00:01:55.439> for<00:01:55.600> much

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think will perhaps even survive for much

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think will perhaps even survive for much longer<00:01:56.320> so<00:01:56.479> they<00:01:56.640> started<00:01:57.119> to

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longer so they started to

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longer so they started to short<00:01:58.000> sell<00:01:58.320> it<00:01:58.560> and<00:01:58.640> then<00:01:59.280> this<00:01:59.600> group<00:01:59.920> on

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short sell it and then this group on

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short sell it and then this group on reddit<00:02:00.640> decided

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reddit decided

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hold on that's immoral started buying

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hold on that's immoral started buying loads<00:02:05.759> of<00:02:05.920> shares<00:02:06.799> and<00:02:06.960> suddenly<00:02:07.280> instead<00:02:07.520> of

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loads of shares and suddenly instead of

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loads of shares and suddenly instead of going<00:02:08.080> down

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going down

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the stock price went right up yeah i

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the stock price went right up yeah i think<00:02:12.000> it's<00:02:12.160> important<00:02:12.400> to<00:02:12.480> get<00:02:12.560> a<00:02:12.560> bit

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think it's important to get a bit

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think it's important to get a bit broader<00:02:13.040> context<00:02:13.440> here

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broader context here

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in the us just like here loads of people

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in the us just like here loads of people they<00:02:16.000> can't<00:02:16.239> work<00:02:16.400> they've<00:02:16.560> lost<00:02:16.800> their<00:02:16.959> jobs

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they can't work they've lost their jobs

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they can't work they've lost their jobs because<00:02:17.360> of<00:02:17.520> code<00:02:17.920> they're<00:02:18.080> seeing<00:02:18.319> a<00:02:18.400> home

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because of code they're seeing a home

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because of code they're seeing a home and<00:02:18.800> they<00:02:18.959> are<00:02:19.040> sitting<00:02:19.360> at<00:02:19.440> home<00:02:20.000> making<00:02:20.319> no

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and they are sitting at home making no

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and they are sitting at home making no money<00:02:20.959> getting<00:02:21.440> relatively<00:02:21.840> small<00:02:22.080> stimulus

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money getting relatively small stimulus

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money getting relatively small stimulus checks

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and they're watching the stock market go

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and they're watching the stock market go through<00:02:24.800> the<00:02:24.959> roof<00:02:25.440> so<00:02:25.680> it's

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through the roof so it's

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through the roof so it's this<00:02:26.400> mad<00:02:26.640> situation<00:02:27.120> where<00:02:27.200> ordinary<00:02:27.680> people

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this mad situation where ordinary people

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this mad situation where ordinary people are<00:02:28.160> sitting<00:02:28.480> at<00:02:28.560> home

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are sitting at home

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they can't even work a job you know

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they can't even work a job you know they're<00:02:30.879> struggling<00:02:31.120> to<00:02:31.200> look<00:02:31.360> after<00:02:31.519> their

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they're struggling to look after their

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families and the billionaires and

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families and the billionaires and multimillionaires<00:02:33.760> are<00:02:33.920> making

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multimillionaires are making

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billions and mighty millions on the

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billions and mighty millions on the stock<00:02:36.720> markets<00:02:37.040> and<00:02:37.120> they<00:02:37.280> want<00:02:37.360> to<00:02:37.440> get

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stock markets and they want to get

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stock markets and they want to get involved

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involved

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so they're out there on the internet and

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so they're out there on the internet and they've<00:02:40.160> converged<00:02:40.560> on<00:02:40.640> this<00:02:40.800> one<00:02:41.040> website

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they've converged on this one website

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they've converged on this one website reddit<00:02:41.920> which<00:02:42.080> is<00:02:42.160> a<00:02:42.239> popular<00:02:42.640> messaging

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reddit which is a popular messaging

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reddit which is a popular messaging board<00:02:43.200> all<00:02:43.360> over<00:02:43.440> the<00:02:43.519> world<00:02:43.760> especially<00:02:44.080> in

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board all over the world especially in

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board all over the world especially in the<00:02:44.160> us

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the us there's<00:02:45.200> clearly<00:02:45.440> some<00:02:45.599> very<00:02:45.680> well<00:02:45.840> informed

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there's clearly some very well informed

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there's clearly some very well informed people<00:02:46.319> here<00:02:46.480> and<00:02:46.560> they<00:02:46.640> said<00:02:46.800> look<00:02:47.440> these

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people here and they said look these

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people here and they said look these hedge<00:02:48.000> funds<00:02:48.239> i<00:02:48.319> put

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hedge funds i put

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hedge funds i put massive<00:02:49.360> short<00:02:49.760> positions<00:02:50.160> on<00:02:50.319> gamestop<00:02:51.440> if

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massive short positions on gamestop if

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massive short positions on gamestop if we<00:02:51.840> all<00:02:52.000> get<00:02:52.080> together<00:02:52.400> as<00:02:52.480> a<00:02:52.560> group

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we all get together as a group

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we all get together as a group and<00:02:53.120> we<00:02:53.360> buy<00:02:53.680> enough<00:02:54.000> gamestop<00:02:54.800> stock<00:02:55.680> then

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and we buy enough gamestop stock then

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and we buy enough gamestop stock then this<00:02:56.160> is<00:02:56.239> what<00:02:56.400> is<00:02:56.560> known

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this is what is known

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this is what is known as<00:02:57.280> a<00:02:57.440> classic<00:02:57.920> short<00:02:58.159> squeeze<00:02:58.879> i<00:02:59.040> know<00:02:59.200> you've

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as a classic short squeeze i know you've

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as a classic short squeeze i know you've got<00:02:59.360> a<00:02:59.440> short<00:02:59.680> position

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got a short position

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so i run the price up and when it when

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the time comes you need to buy it back

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well you have to pay me whatever i ask

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for it and this has happened before you

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for it and this has happened before you can

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if you look in the 80s there was a big

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short squeeze in gold massively it does

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although it's not normally managed by

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about the role of these relatively

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new apps things like robin hood which

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new apps things like robin hood which had<00:03:19.840> to

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take action to stop people buying and

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take action to stop people buying and selling

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uh stock in gamestop what kind of role

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have these

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had in i think the idea was to

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had in i think the idea was to democratize

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wall street and investment banking have

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wall street and investment banking have they<00:03:34.480> had<00:03:34.720> a<00:03:34.879> good<00:03:35.120> influence

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they had a good influence

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you know what david i'm really happy you

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you know what david i'm really happy you asked<00:03:37.599> me<00:03:37.680> that<00:03:37.920> because<00:03:38.159> on<00:03:38.319> the<00:03:38.400> one<00:03:38.640> side<00:03:38.959> we

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asked me that because on the one side we

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have this situation and it's not just

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have this situation and it's not just this<00:03:40.879> last<00:03:41.040> year<00:03:41.200> it's<00:03:41.360> been<00:03:41.440> happening<00:03:41.680> for

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this last year it's been happening for

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this last year it's been happening for 10<00:03:42.000> years<00:03:42.239> you<00:03:42.319> know

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10 years you know

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stock markets have gone up about three

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or four times five times depending what

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or four times five times depending what country<00:03:45.519> you<00:03:45.599> look<00:03:45.760> at<00:03:45.840> it<00:03:46.000> since<00:03:46.239> 2008

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country you look at it since 2008

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country you look at it since 2008 and<00:03:47.440> in<00:03:47.599> that<00:03:47.760> time<00:03:48.000> have<00:03:48.159> a<00:03:48.239> wage<00:03:48.640> has<00:03:48.720> gone<00:03:48.879> up

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and in that time have a wage has gone up

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five times definitely not

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so we've had this situation where the

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so we've had this situation where the rich<00:03:52.159> are<00:03:52.239> doing<00:03:52.480> really<00:03:52.720> well<00:03:52.879> on<00:03:53.040> stock

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rich are doing really well on stock

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rich are doing really well on stock markets<00:03:53.680> and<00:03:53.840> also

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markets and also

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property markets for example whereas

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ordinary people are not making money

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the same time there is a really

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dangerous side to this now in the last

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dangerous side to this now in the last one<00:04:06.239> year

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betting websites in this country has

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betting websites in this country has exploded

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and that's for a variety of reasons

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right people can't work you know there's

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no football people don't bet on

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no football people don't bet on something

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but also people are struggling

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financially and they see how well

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financially and they see how well super<00:04:19.120> rich<00:04:19.280> people<00:04:19.440> are<00:04:19.519> doing<00:04:19.680> on<00:04:19.759> the<00:04:19.840> stock

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super rich people are doing on the stock

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market and they want to be involved my

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market and they want to be involved my concern<00:04:22.160> is

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concern is

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when they use these online spread

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betting websites they don't really know

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what they're doing

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they're not getting good advice they're

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getting dragged into it that i know

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people they're trading all the time

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and essentially i think there are people

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who are potentially developing a

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gambling addiction and it can be really

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gambling addiction and it can be really dangerous<00:04:35.280> and<00:04:35.440> look

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dangerous and look

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gambling addiction is a serious thing

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so we're just like to really caution

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bitcoin as well for example or game stop

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bitcoin as well for example or game stop thinking

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involved on this please please be

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they're calling them meme stocks on the

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internet if you're hearing about it in

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it's probably too late to make money

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from it you know i wish it was as easy

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this be careful don't rush in there don't

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bitcoin cryptocurrencies definitely

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very sensibly is there going to be a

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well i mean they're i would love to have

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well i mean they're i would love to have been

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offices when they decided to ban trading

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offices when they decided to ban trading i'm<00:05:29.280> sure<00:05:29.440> he<00:05:29.520> would<00:05:29.759> ask<00:05:29.919> robin<00:05:30.240> hood

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i'm sure he would ask robin hood

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they would say they are protecting their

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customers from extreme volatility

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and you know like i've just said this is

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and you know like i've just said this is potentially<00:05:37.840> dangerous<00:05:38.160> for<00:05:38.320> customers<00:05:38.800> so

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potentially dangerous for customers so

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potentially dangerous for customers so they've<00:05:39.759> got<00:05:39.840> their<00:05:40.000> right<00:05:40.160> to<00:05:40.320> say<00:05:40.479> that<00:05:40.639> i

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they've got their right to say that i

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don't know what's true or what's fast

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don't know what's true or what's fast but<00:05:42.479> there<00:05:42.720> is<00:05:42.800> definitely

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but there is definitely

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but there is definitely possibility<00:05:44.240> there's<00:05:44.320> going<00:05:44.479> to<00:05:44.479> be

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possibility there's going to be

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possibility there's going to be regulation<00:05:45.039> you<00:05:45.199> know<00:05:45.360> i<00:05:45.440> go<00:05:45.600> on<00:05:45.680> this<00:05:45.919> reddit

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regulation you know i go on this reddit

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regulation you know i go on this reddit message<00:05:46.479> board

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message board

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they insist they're going to do a

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they insist they're going to do a class-action<00:05:48.479> lawsuit<00:05:48.960> against<00:05:49.120> robin<00:05:49.440> hood

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class-action lawsuit against robin hood

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class-action lawsuit against robin hood i've<00:05:50.400> got<00:05:50.560> neither<00:05:50.880> where<00:05:50.960> that's<00:05:51.199> going<00:05:51.280> to

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i've got neither where that's going to

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i've got neither where that's going to happen<00:05:52.000> um<00:05:52.639> what<00:05:52.880> i<00:05:53.039> do<00:05:53.199> think<00:05:53.440> is<00:05:53.520> important

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happen um what i do think is important

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happen um what i do think is important is<00:05:54.080> to<00:05:54.160> realize<00:05:54.479> that<00:05:54.639> this<00:05:54.880> is<00:05:54.960> not<00:05:55.120> a<00:05:55.199> one-off

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is to realize that this is not a one-off

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is to realize that this is not a one-off it's<00:05:55.680> going<00:05:55.759> to<00:05:55.840> keep<00:05:56.000> happening<00:05:56.319> and<00:05:56.479> that<00:05:56.639> is

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it's going to keep happening and that is

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it's going to keep happening and that is because<00:05:56.960> of<00:05:57.039> the<00:05:57.120> way<00:05:57.280> that<00:05:57.440> governments<00:05:57.919> have

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because of the way that governments have

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because of the way that governments have dealt<00:05:58.240> with<00:05:58.400> the<00:05:58.479> coronavirus<00:05:59.039> crisis

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dealt with the coronavirus crisis

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dealt with the coronavirus crisis now<00:05:59.919> the<00:06:00.000> money<00:06:00.240> they<00:06:00.400> used<00:06:00.639> for<00:06:00.800> the<00:06:00.880> furlough

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now the money they used for the furlough

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now the money they used for the furlough scheme<00:06:01.440> for<00:06:01.520> example<00:06:02.080> they<00:06:02.240> didn't<00:06:02.560> raise

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scheme for example they didn't raise

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scheme for example they didn't raise taxes<00:06:03.120> and<00:06:03.280> they<00:06:03.360> didn't<00:06:03.520> borrow<00:06:03.759> that<00:06:03.840> money

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taxes and they didn't borrow that money

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taxes and they didn't borrow that money they<00:06:04.240> simply<00:06:04.479> printed<00:06:04.960> it

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they simply printed it

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at the bank of england and that means

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at the bank of england and that means there's<00:06:07.120> been<00:06:07.280> a<00:06:07.360> flood<00:06:07.680> of<00:06:07.840> extra<00:06:08.080> cash<00:06:08.319> into

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there's been a flood of extra cash into

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the system

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that cash is swirling around and it's

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that cash is swirling around and it's largely<00:06:11.039> sitting<00:06:11.600> with<00:06:11.759> richer<00:06:12.160> people

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largely sitting with richer people

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and it's a huge amount it's ten thousand

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and it's a huge amount it's ten thousand pounds<00:06:14.960> per<00:06:15.199> adult<00:06:15.440> in<00:06:15.600> this<00:06:15.680> country<00:06:15.919> that's

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pounds per adult in this country that's

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pounds per adult in this country that's been<00:06:16.160> printed<00:06:16.479> and<00:06:16.639> it's<00:06:16.720> the<00:06:16.800> same<00:06:17.039> in<00:06:17.120> the

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been printed and it's the same in the

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u.s or a similar amount

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that money swimming around is sitting

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with richard people they're going to use

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it to push up stock markets

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to push up property prices and ordinary

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people are going to want to get involved

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in that so i think people need to be

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in that so i think people need to be aware<00:06:27.199> that<00:06:27.440> that's<00:06:27.680> what's<00:06:27.840> happening

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aware that that's what's happening

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that's what the government's doing and

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it is going to affect ordinary people

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and that's the leader we're back at 4pm

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and that's the leader we're back at 4pm on<00:06:38.000> monday<00:06:38.639> see<00:06:38.800> you<00:06:38.880> then