and suddenly everyone's a stock market
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gary stevenson made so much money
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trading in london he retired at 27
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you've probably answered this question a
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explain as simply as possible
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what happened with gabe stop yeah that's
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right now okay
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so let's keep it nice and simple what is
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short selling short selling is a way
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of a stock going
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down now if you think the price of a
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stock is going to go up it's easy you go
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but if it's going to go down what do you
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someone who does have it
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you borrow it say for a week for example
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the way you might borrow a library book
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and then you sell it and then you hope
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to buy it back within the week
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you buy it for a lower price and you
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sold it and you make your profit that's
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hopefully for cheaper and that's what's
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been happening with gamestop which is a
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company that a lot of investors don't
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longer so they started to
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hold on that's immoral started buying
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the stock price went right up yeah i
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in the us just like here loads of people
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they can't work they've lost their jobs
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because of code they're seeing a home
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are sitting at home
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billions and mighty millions on the
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reddit which is a popular messaging
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there's clearly some very well informed
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massive short positions on gamestop if
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we all get together as a group
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this is what is known
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got a short position
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so i run the price up and when it when
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the time comes you need to buy it back
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well you have to pay me whatever i ask
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if you look in the 80s there was a big
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about the role of these relatively
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they had a good influence
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you know what david i'm really happy you
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asked me that because on the one side we
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have this situation and it's not just
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stock markets have gone up about three
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or four times five times depending what
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country you look at it since 2008
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so we've had this situation where the
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it has to be seen as a good thing but at
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the same time there is a really
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and that's for a variety of reasons
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financially and they see how well
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super rich people are doing on the stock
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people they're trading all the time
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who are potentially developing a
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gambling addiction is a serious thing
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so we're just like to really caution
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people out there looking at things like
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they're calling them meme stocks on the
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it's probably too late to make money
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but please people out there listening to
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gamble more than you can afford to lose
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to be honest advise ordinary people to
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stay out or at least invest very very
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very sensibly is there going to be a
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fallout from this gary is there going to
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a fly on the wall in the robin hood
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offices when they decided to ban trading
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i'm sure he would ask robin hood
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potentially dangerous for customers so
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they've got their right to say that i
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class-action lawsuit against robin hood
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i've got neither where that's going to
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happen um what i do think is important
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is to realize that this is not a one-off
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it's going to keep happening and that is
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scheme for example they didn't raise
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they simply printed it
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at the bank of england and that means
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and it's a huge amount it's ten thousand
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pounds per adult in this country that's
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that money swimming around is sitting
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it to push up stock markets
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to push up property prices and ordinary
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people are going to want to get involved
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that's what the government's doing and
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it is going to affect ordinary people
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