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Debunking Trickle Down Economics

October 09, 2022
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I'm Gary Stevenson welcome back to Gary's Economics

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today we're going to explain "Trickle Down Economics"

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okay so trickle-down economics is the term used  to describe the idea that if you allow rich  

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people to get a lot of money, to accumulate  a lot of money, it will grow your economy  

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on the basis that because rich people have a much  higher rate of saving from the income if they get  

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money they will save more and that will lead to  more economic investment and more economic growth  

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this is important now because here in the UK  we have a new government Liz Truss is a new  

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prime minister and they are saying they want  to drive growth in the country by cutting tax  

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on rich people which will lead to the rich having  more money and growing the economy so we're going  

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to talk today about where the idea comes from  and basically why it doesn't work so

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the first thing you need to understand is  

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what is investment? and what is growth?  Okay so as an individual you might think  

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if you buy a new house that is investment  from your perspective or if you buy

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stocks and shares that is investment from your  perspective it's important to understand that  

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investment will only grow the country if it  is investment in new productive assets so for  

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example if you build new houses or if we build  more wind turbines or if we build factories or  

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if we build more productive equipment or if we  upgrade the machinery on our farms this will  

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increase productivity in the country and it will it will cause growth so the idea behind trickle down  

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economics if you give money to rich people they'll  save it, then invest it and the country will grow  

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and this is quite a sort of it's a simple idea  from economics which is if people save more then  

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there must be more investment but what this  misses is that when rich people save money  

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they have other options other than simply  investing in building new assets right they  

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don't need to just build new houses or build  new wind turbines the other thing that they  

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can do and often what they do do is buy the  existing assets so you know in the last few  

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years we've seen a massive increase in the cash  holdings of very rich people in this country  

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and they didn't rush out and build new houses or  build new wind turbines or build factories in many  

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cases what they did is they gave that money to  their children and the children used that money to  

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buy houses and that's why we've seen in the last  few years a very big increase in house prices in  

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this country the UK and also many other countries  at the same time as a very big increase in cash  

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Holdings of the rich so I think this is the first  problem in trickle down economics is if we give 

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cash to the rich they're not going to necessarily invest  in building new assets they might simply use that  

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money to buy existing assets which means that you  and your kids can't afford existing assets so in  

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the last few years I've said a lot on this channel  your average Rich individual has accumulated about  

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100-200 grand cash that means that people from  poor families who haven't accumulated that money  

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their deposits are no longer enough for them to  compete with the rich families so what you see  

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then is that all this money has done in this  case has meant that instead of younger people  

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from poorer families buying houses, younger people  from rich families have bought those houses so  

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it can lead simply to rich people buying extra  assets the other thing that rich people will do  

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is they'll lend the money out you know um they'll  sit on the money and they'll lend the money that  

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might sound good if rich people lend more money  out but if rich people lend more money out  

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then not only are they lending it possibly to  you but they're also lending it to other people  

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so that means that when you go to buy a house you  are competing with other people who can get bigger  

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mortgages which means that house prices will go  up and the end result is that it's harder for  

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poor people with lower deposits to buy houses  because they can't get those big mortgages  

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and the people that do buy houses will end  up having bigger mortgages so the two big  

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consequences that we've seen from giving cash to  the rich are higher house prices and fewer people  

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from poor families being able to afford houses and  also bigger mortgages so more debt for ordinary  

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families so I think this is the the key thing  that you need to realize right when rich people  

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are given money they don't necessarily  go and build a wind farm you know  

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the main thing they'll do is they'll buy  existing houses and that does nothing  

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to improve the productivity of the country all  it does is make wealth inequality worse right  

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because it means that ordinary families have  less assets and richer families get more assets  

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and that that brings us to this this big  point of you know 'does it work?' and I think  

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we've got a great example to look at to  explain to us whether it works or not which is  

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the idea is if they have money they're not  going to build the wind farm themselves right  

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what they're going to do is they're going  to lend the money to the corporation tool  

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by the wind farm and the idea is that means that  corporations can then borrow at low interest rates  

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so hopefully they'll go and invest and they'll  build these things which will grow our economy  

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but we've had a really long period of trying  this out right since 2008 we had 14 years of  

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basically zero interest rates and that meant that  corporations could borrow basically for free for  

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that whole period did they then make loads of  Investments well if we look at that period 

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2008-2022 is actually one of the lowest growth  and lowest investment periods in the whole of  

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British economic history so when we actually tried  giving corporations access to very cheap loans  

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they didn't invest they they in many cases they  simply accumulate the money and used it to buy  

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existing assets then after that in Covid we  tried this period of just absolutely smashing  

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tons of cash to rich people and did it create  economic growth did it create boom economy well  

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what we actually saw was massive increase in  inequality, massive increase in house prices,  

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massive increased inflation and a collapse in the  cost of living and that is because of the other  

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fact which which I mentioned in last week's video  money is the resource which we use to determine  

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how we allocate the real resources like housing  food energy so if you give a ton of money to the  

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rich they will also consume more housing food  energy you know there's more space if you give  

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them money loads of money they will use more  stuff which means ultimately the prices go up  

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and you guys will get less stuff so I think  if we look at the reality of the situation  

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it hasn't worked if you understand the theory  of the situation there's this very simplistic  

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theory which they'll save more than invest more  but as soon as you take a step back and realize  

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they don't need to invest in new assets they  can simply just buy existing assets which means  

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ordinary families have less assets then you  see that what this actually does is increase that  

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spiral of increasing inequality which mirrors  that spiral of decreasing living standards so  

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you know I understand the theory you know  you know despite what I sound like I have  

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studied a bit of Economics I've got two  Economics degrees I understand the theory  

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um I think the theory is horribly naïve and  it simply neglects to realise that rich people  

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don't need to invest in new assets they can  simply buy existing assets from poorer and  

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more ordinary families um so I think it's really  really important that we push back against this  

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um because if you don't push back against  it then things can happen like what happened  

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two weeks ago where the Government tried to  massively slash taxes for rich people and that  

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will massively decrease your standard of living  um I think what is very interesting is that you  

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know financial markets refused it and I think  that is in this instance very very fortunate  

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but that doesn't take away from the fact that we  are still in a situation where during Covid  

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£600 billion was transferred from the government  to the rich, now as part of trying to fix the  

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energy crisis another 150 billion pounds is going  to be transferred from the government to the rich  

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they're trying to convince you it's going to grow  the economy but in reality it's going to mean  

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ordinary families lose their assets, younger  people from ordinary families can't buy homes  

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um the rich will get a bigger and bigger share  of consumption which means ordinary families  

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living standards will decrease so basically  the end message of this video is that um  

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and I think people already know this  trickle down economics it is an idea  

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there's some thinking behind it it's horribly simplistic and it doesn't work  

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um if you allow inequality to increase especially  if you're allowed to increase massively like it  

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has done in the last few years they're living  standards for ordinary families will decrease  

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um oh the last thing I wanted to add was you know  

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if you give a ton of money to rich people  even if they do give it to businesses  

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businesses are not going to grow not going to  invest in growing their the size of their product  

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if the middle class can't spend and what we've  done in the last few years is massively crushed  

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the spending power of ordinary families so  if you combine these two things at the same  

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time crushing the spending part of ordinary  families giving a ton of cash to the rich  

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of course they're not going to invest in growing  businesses you know what we're actually seeing  

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is businesses shutting down you know local pubs  are shutting down because people cannot afford  

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to go to those places so um if  you want to grow the economy  

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you need to have a strong consumer businesses  will not invest and grow unless there's customers  

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and in order to do that you need to get more  money in the pockets of ordinary families  

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um if you give it instead to the rich, prices will  go up and ordinary families will get poorer so  

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um so yeah um trickle down economics it doesn't  work um send this video to your friends and  

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family, maybe who believe in it um and yeah help  us push back and fight against it thank you

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at the moment these guys are profiting from a  crisis that is going to keep our economy in a  

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stump for 50 years. there is one other thing  they can do with that mass amount of income  

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they can buy your mum's house