billions off of kobe 19.
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crisis for decades i know
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because i made millions as a trader in
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happen after the 2008 crash
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was citibank's most profitable trader
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all right so there's been a lot of talk
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been most affected by coronavirus
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but what i think has not been understood
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now this can be easily understood if you
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understand the flows of money in society
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now that's important because it drives
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workers have to pay rent bills
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to the owners of properties and
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owners of movies who are the rich so in
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normal times money flows in a circle
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rich people spend a lot ordinary people
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people massively cut their spending
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around
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very quickly ordinary people run out of
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money and they can't pay their bills and
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support people who had lost their
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jobs the problem is they didn't take
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to help struggling workers they simply
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printed the money at the bank of england
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what that means is money's still not
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the bank of england prints new money
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people when they pay their bills
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pounds which is more than six thousand
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more taxes on ordinary people
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now if that happens that can increase
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to talk about is that massive
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increase of money that has been built up
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in a bank account of richer people
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what is going to happen with that money
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i know how ordinary people spend their
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now richer people if you give them a
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massive amount of money they're going to
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use that to buy property
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and that's going to push up the price of
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those things that means that right now
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losing their jobs richer people are
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going to get a massive income from
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increase in the prices of the properties
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you know back in 2008 we made the same
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mistake we tried to fix an economic
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crisis by pouring money into the economy
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it's gonna mean that for millions of
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families in this country they will never
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ever be able to own property no matter
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it is going to end social mobility in
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i saw the economists and the traders
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but it didn't happen that recovery was
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never dealt with
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if we do the same thing now again we
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this problem is not going to fix itself
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inequality will only get worse and worse
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i don't want to live in a country where
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if you're born poor you will live your
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whole life poor and you will die poor
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and there's nothing you can do about it
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we've got a tax system in this country
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if you work you're going to pay your
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these are all taxed in different methods
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and are very easy to legally avoid
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and the economy will never recover
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and make pessimistic predictions but
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i've been betting on this for 10 years
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and i've been right for 10 years
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going to have an economic recovery
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we need to reform the tax system so that
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working people
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i grew up here in east london i came
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down there in canary wharf
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to get property to get financial
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security and i know how important it is
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to people from families like that and
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that's going to get more difficult now
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to make things fairer
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